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		<title>By: Kathy Ziolkowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Ziolkowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Suzanne,
I understand your dilemna concerning college.For the longest time in our society and still prevails now in the 21st century, that as Heidi Hayes Jacobs puts in her book, &#039;Curriculum 21&#039;, on page 16, &quot;that the tradition of the rugged individual who makes it on his own is more widely regarded if that person is not educated. Intellects are scoffed at in the United Sates.&quot; Wow that couldn&#039;t be more true.  I also waited 20+ years to go to college so that I could advance my degree. Otherwise I would not be able to get a better paying job at the place where I was working.  It is hard out there and I think that students graduating and in school should find their &#039;spark&#039; in life.  Something that they enjoy and really produces self-satisfaction for them. Otherwise they will end up not liking what they do but stuck in it because like you said &#039;we should be happy we have a job.&#039; 
Thanks for sharing your post with me!
Kathy Ziolkowski</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Suzanne,<br />
I understand your dilemna concerning college.For the longest time in our society and still prevails now in the 21st century, that as Heidi Hayes Jacobs puts in her book, &#8216;Curriculum 21&#8242;, on page 16, &#8220;that the tradition of the rugged individual who makes it on his own is more widely regarded if that person is not educated. Intellects are scoffed at in the United Sates.&#8221; Wow that couldn&#8217;t be more true.  I also waited 20+ years to go to college so that I could advance my degree. Otherwise I would not be able to get a better paying job at the place where I was working.  It is hard out there and I think that students graduating and in school should find their &#8216;spark&#8217; in life.  Something that they enjoy and really produces self-satisfaction for them. Otherwise they will end up not liking what they do but stuck in it because like you said &#8216;we should be happy we have a job.&#8217;<br />
Thanks for sharing your post with me!<br />
Kathy Ziolkowski</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Ziolkowski</title>
		<link>http://weblogg-ed.com/2011/a-different-path/comment-page-1/#comment-89273</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy Ziolkowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand completely! My son didn&#039;t finish college as he has ADHD and strays from idea to idea and now he is waiting tables to pay the bills.  But in the long run I do believe that a college would certainly help him. I agree that it is a necessary evil as well!  It sounds like your son will do well in the creative world.  It is the same world that my son also like!
Thanks for writing!
Kathy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand completely! My son didn&#8217;t finish college as he has ADHD and strays from idea to idea and now he is waiting tables to pay the bills.  But in the long run I do believe that a college would certainly help him. I agree that it is a necessary evil as well!  It sounds like your son will do well in the creative world.  It is the same world that my son also like!<br />
Thanks for writing!<br />
Kathy</p>
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		<title>By: gminks</title>
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		<dc:creator>gminks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 12:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My son graduated from college a few weeks ago. He does not have a job. Nor does he have any desire to be chained to a desk doing non-creative work. He&#039;s moving several hundred miles away, to live w my cousin who is on the board of a huge comic convention. He&#039;ll work for free with her, and try to make the contacts he needs to get into that line of work. In the meantime his aspiration to pay his bills is to wait tables.

I&#039;m hoping this is his year off. The problem is...that college degree will open doors. I see it as a necessary evil. And my son will hopefully be able to use it and won&#039;t stay in his waiter career very long..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My son graduated from college a few weeks ago. He does not have a job. Nor does he have any desire to be chained to a desk doing non-creative work. He&#8217;s moving several hundred miles away, to live w my cousin who is on the board of a huge comic convention. He&#8217;ll work for free with her, and try to make the contacts he needs to get into that line of work. In the meantime his aspiration to pay his bills is to wait tables.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping this is his year off. The problem is&#8230;that college degree will open doors. I see it as a necessary evil. And my son will hopefully be able to use it and won&#8217;t stay in his waiter career very long..</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Ziolkowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Ziolkowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 01:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand where Doug Johnson is coming from.  The world looks completely different once you finish college and strike out on your own.  I opted not to go to college out of high school but instead to go to Europe and live for two years, before coming back to the USA. The best lessons aren&#039;t always taught in the classroom.  I learned about culture, language and people though my european experiences.  I learned the German language while working for American Express in Frankfurt.  I traveled to dozens of countries and soaked up the history and culture of each place I visited.  I made friends that I still have and learned life&#039;s lessons in abundace.  After I returned to the US I couldn&#039;t find a job.  Luckily I knew someone who got me a job in a bank.  I moved around a lot and finally moved back to my home state of Maryland and began working at Johns Hopkins University.  I worked full time and got by degree at night.  Now I am in the MSED program there as well.  I can&#039;t say I regret anything except starting my college so late in my life.  But I would add that for each person there are different paths and answers which each person must discover individually.
Kathy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand where Doug Johnson is coming from.  The world looks completely different once you finish college and strike out on your own.  I opted not to go to college out of high school but instead to go to Europe and live for two years, before coming back to the USA. The best lessons aren&#8217;t always taught in the classroom.  I learned about culture, language and people though my european experiences.  I learned the German language while working for American Express in Frankfurt.  I traveled to dozens of countries and soaked up the history and culture of each place I visited.  I made friends that I still have and learned life&#8217;s lessons in abundace.  After I returned to the US I couldn&#8217;t find a job.  Luckily I knew someone who got me a job in a bank.  I moved around a lot and finally moved back to my home state of Maryland and began working at Johns Hopkins University.  I worked full time and got by degree at night.  Now I am in the MSED program there as well.  I can&#8217;t say I regret anything except starting my college so late in my life.  But I would add that for each person there are different paths and answers which each person must discover individually.<br />
Kathy</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Ziolkowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Ziolkowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 01:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I agree with Doug Johnson.  But I also believe that you can&#039;t always learn life&#039;s lessons in the classroom.  I went to Europe to live right out of high school for two years before returning to the USA.  It was the best multi-cultural experience that I could ever have gotten.  I learned the language without formal teaching, I landed a job with American Express in Frankfurt and I traveled to over a dozen European countries enriching my knowledge immensely.  I learned much more from those experiences than college could ever have taught me.  that being said when I did return to the States i was out of work for 6 months until through networking I landed a job in banking.  Then later after returning back to Maryland I went to work for Johns Hopkins University and realized that I needed a college degree to further advance my career.  I completed the BA and now after a number of years realize I also need to finsh a master&#039;s to get any further.  So formal education and a college degree are very important but also education comes in various forms and you can never discount either life learning experiences or a formal education.  
Kathy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I agree with Doug Johnson.  But I also believe that you can&#8217;t always learn life&#8217;s lessons in the classroom.  I went to Europe to live right out of high school for two years before returning to the USA.  It was the best multi-cultural experience that I could ever have gotten.  I learned the language without formal teaching, I landed a job with American Express in Frankfurt and I traveled to over a dozen European countries enriching my knowledge immensely.  I learned much more from those experiences than college could ever have taught me.  that being said when I did return to the States i was out of work for 6 months until through networking I landed a job in banking.  Then later after returning back to Maryland I went to work for Johns Hopkins University and realized that I needed a college degree to further advance my career.  I completed the BA and now after a number of years realize I also need to finsh a master&#8217;s to get any further.  So formal education and a college degree are very important but also education comes in various forms and you can never discount either life learning experiences or a formal education.<br />
Kathy</p>
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		<title>By: Una ruta diferente &#124; vivirlaeducacion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Una ruta diferente &#124; vivirlaeducacion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 12:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Suzanne Kelchner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne Kelchner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 20:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, too many jobs require the degree for HR to even look at the resume. That&#039;s why I went back after 20+ years.

Our alternative education plan started when I began homeschooling my oldest. His preschool teacher told me he wasn&#039;t ready for kindergarten since he could not color in the lines or cut straight. He&#039;s 24 and still can&#039;t. 

After high school, he didn&#039;t know what he wanted to do. He had a choice: get a full time job and pay rent or go to community college as a full time student. He chose the latter. He took classes to fulfill the GE reqs, but also took a class he was interested in. I didn&#039;t care if it transferred. He needed to find out what he liked. It took him three years, and then he took a couple of years off. He spent part of that time traveling. He just graduated from University (on his own dime :)).

The second son will graduate from a state school next year. He&#039;s always knows what he wanted to do and went after it. 

The third one graduated in a month and will get a technical certificate from the community college. His area of giftedness is hands on.

I want them to find an area that they can feel accomplished in. This may make them happy, or it may not. I&#039;m happy to put food on the table. Work is the way to do that, even if I&#039;m not happy at work. With today&#039;s economy, if you have a job, you should be happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, too many jobs require the degree for HR to even look at the resume. That&#8217;s why I went back after 20+ years.</p>
<p>Our alternative education plan started when I began homeschooling my oldest. His preschool teacher told me he wasn&#8217;t ready for kindergarten since he could not color in the lines or cut straight. He&#8217;s 24 and still can&#8217;t. </p>
<p>After high school, he didn&#8217;t know what he wanted to do. He had a choice: get a full time job and pay rent or go to community college as a full time student. He chose the latter. He took classes to fulfill the GE reqs, but also took a class he was interested in. I didn&#8217;t care if it transferred. He needed to find out what he liked. It took him three years, and then he took a couple of years off. He spent part of that time traveling. He just graduated from University (on his own dime <img src='http://weblogg-ed.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ).</p>
<p>The second son will graduate from a state school next year. He&#8217;s always knows what he wanted to do and went after it. </p>
<p>The third one graduated in a month and will get a technical certificate from the community college. His area of giftedness is hands on.</p>
<p>I want them to find an area that they can feel accomplished in. This may make them happy, or it may not. I&#8217;m happy to put food on the table. Work is the way to do that, even if I&#8217;m not happy at work. With today&#8217;s economy, if you have a job, you should be happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 19:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started at a four-year school (Kutztown University) the fall after I graduated from high school.  After year one I transferred to another four-year school (Pennsylvania State University) after I decided that playing football was no longer important to me.  My post-school plans solidified while at Penn State, I graduated with an education degree and an info sciences minor, and now I love what I do.

Sometimes it does work.  I&#039;m glad I was prepared for college.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started at a four-year school (Kutztown University) the fall after I graduated from high school.  After year one I transferred to another four-year school (Pennsylvania State University) after I decided that playing football was no longer important to me.  My post-school plans solidified while at Penn State, I graduated with an education degree and an info sciences minor, and now I love what I do.</p>
<p>Sometimes it does work.  I&#8217;m glad I was prepared for college.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Manning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Manning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 15:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will, I appreciate your focus on &#039;passion&#039; and &#039;portfolio&#039;, rather than a blind faith commitment to &#039;college&#039; and &#039;career&#039; as the answer for all.  Our traditional life planning question for kids is &quot;What do you want to be when you grow up?&quot;  The answer we adults seek is the name of a college program we respect, leading to a profession we admire.  It is difficult for young people to develop an appreciation for personal identity when everyone keeps asking them image-based questions.  

There are two aspects to the exploration of identity and one of them, the value of developing a sense of personal passions, has been well discussed here.  A continuous commitment to development of a personal &#039;portfolio&#039; is equally important as a person builds out a life.  Whereas the pursuit of passions is the road to &#039;fulfillment&#039;, the development of a portfolio of assets is the path to personal &#039;sustainability&#039;.  Encouraging young people to build a diversity of high demand/low supply skills, credentials, experiences, and personal networks through active involvement in life is the ticket to survival in a job market that keeps shifting and changing at a rapid pace.

When you talk to Tess and Tucker, don&#039;t forget to encourage them to get involved with everything - examining their interests while developing personal assets.  Teach them to keep and continuously update a portfolio of skills, credentials, experiences and networks - ones they will use throughout life to access various types of financial aid, post-secondary instruction, volunteer opportunities, and work.  Their capacity to adapt within a changing living/learning/working environment is as important as the appreciation of things that matter to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will, I appreciate your focus on &#8216;passion&#8217; and &#8216;portfolio&#8217;, rather than a blind faith commitment to &#8216;college&#8217; and &#8216;career&#8217; as the answer for all.  Our traditional life planning question for kids is &#8220;What do you want to be when you grow up?&#8221;  The answer we adults seek is the name of a college program we respect, leading to a profession we admire.  It is difficult for young people to develop an appreciation for personal identity when everyone keeps asking them image-based questions.  </p>
<p>There are two aspects to the exploration of identity and one of them, the value of developing a sense of personal passions, has been well discussed here.  A continuous commitment to development of a personal &#8216;portfolio&#8217; is equally important as a person builds out a life.  Whereas the pursuit of passions is the road to &#8216;fulfillment&#8217;, the development of a portfolio of assets is the path to personal &#8216;sustainability&#8217;.  Encouraging young people to build a diversity of high demand/low supply skills, credentials, experiences, and personal networks through active involvement in life is the ticket to survival in a job market that keeps shifting and changing at a rapid pace.</p>
<p>When you talk to Tess and Tucker, don&#8217;t forget to encourage them to get involved with everything &#8211; examining their interests while developing personal assets.  Teach them to keep and continuously update a portfolio of skills, credentials, experiences and networks &#8211; ones they will use throughout life to access various types of financial aid, post-secondary instruction, volunteer opportunities, and work.  Their capacity to adapt within a changing living/learning/working environment is as important as the appreciation of things that matter to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Is Passion All You Need? &#124; Brian Dusablon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is Passion All You Need? &#124; Brian Dusablon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 12:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Is Passion All You Need? 2011 May 30   tags: college, Learning, passion by Brian   And odds are pretty good that 10 years from now when you are looking to strike out on your own, your passion and your portfolio will take you as far if not farther than a degree that came at a great expense and in all likelihood with only a slice of relevance. - Will Richardson &#8211; &#8220;A Different Path&#8220; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Is Passion All You Need? 2011 May 30   tags: college, Learning, passion by Brian   And odds are pretty good that 10 years from now when you are looking to strike out on your own, your passion and your portfolio will take you as far if not farther than a degree that came at a great expense and in all likelihood with only a slice of relevance. &#8211; Will Richardson &#8211; &#8220;A Different Path&#8220; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: I Passion All You Need? &#124; Brian Dusablon</title>
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		<dc:creator>I Passion All You Need? &#124; Brian Dusablon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 12:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I Passion All You Need? 2011 May 30   tags: college, Learning, passion by Brian   And odds are pretty good that 10 years from now when you are looking to strike out on your own, your passion and your portfolio will take you as far if not farther than a degree that came at a great expense and in all likelihood with only a slice of relevance. - Will Richardson &#8211; &#8220;A Different Path&#8220; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I Passion All You Need? 2011 May 30   tags: college, Learning, passion by Brian   And odds are pretty good that 10 years from now when you are looking to strike out on your own, your passion and your portfolio will take you as far if not farther than a degree that came at a great expense and in all likelihood with only a slice of relevance. &#8211; Will Richardson &#8211; &#8220;A Different Path&#8220; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 02:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, the aha moment here is helping young people find their passion.  That, in my opinion, will empower them to find what makes them happy and makes decisions that are best for them.  Check out this video about helping kids do just that.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqzUHcW58Us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, the aha moment here is helping young people find their passion.  That, in my opinion, will empower them to find what makes them happy and makes decisions that are best for them.  Check out this video about helping kids do just that.  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqzUHcW58Us" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqzUHcW58Us</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Wagner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy Wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 12:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started college because it was what I was supposed to do. After wasting a year with no direction at all and little motivation I transferred to a community college. There I discovered a love of literature and philosophy and tranfererred back to a 4 year school to obtain a degree in literature (which was my passion) and minor in education (so I could get a job teaching my passion). 

It is now 20 years later. My passion has evolved to technology and learning environments. To that end I now have a Master of Science in Education and a Can in Educational Leadership. I am Director of Technology in a small school district and am passionate about my work and earn a living. 

I had no idea when I started college what I would discover but I can assure you without it I would not have found my path. Does that mean college is the pat? I don&#039;t think so. There are many ways I could have arrived at the same or a similar place. I would agree that what we need to be looking at is finding passion. Figuring out what we want as individuals does not mean following a prescribed path. Affording our children the opportunity to find that path is where the focus should be regardless of whether that means college, travel, internship, service, or any other path. 

Unfortunately we continue to work in schools that operate under the mandate that our goal is to get them to college, all with the same skill set, all without passion for what awaits them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started college because it was what I was supposed to do. After wasting a year with no direction at all and little motivation I transferred to a community college. There I discovered a love of literature and philosophy and tranfererred back to a 4 year school to obtain a degree in literature (which was my passion) and minor in education (so I could get a job teaching my passion). </p>
<p>It is now 20 years later. My passion has evolved to technology and learning environments. To that end I now have a Master of Science in Education and a Can in Educational Leadership. I am Director of Technology in a small school district and am passionate about my work and earn a living. </p>
<p>I had no idea when I started college what I would discover but I can assure you without it I would not have found my path. Does that mean college is the pat? I don&#8217;t think so. There are many ways I could have arrived at the same or a similar place. I would agree that what we need to be looking at is finding passion. Figuring out what we want as individuals does not mean following a prescribed path. Affording our children the opportunity to find that path is where the focus should be regardless of whether that means college, travel, internship, service, or any other path. </p>
<p>Unfortunately we continue to work in schools that operate under the mandate that our goal is to get them to college, all with the same skill set, all without passion for what awaits them.</p>
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		<title>By: coco</title>
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		<dc:creator>coco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 03:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: coco</title>
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		<dc:creator>coco</dc:creator>
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