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		<title>By: What do you think of this article? &#124; Instructional Design</title>
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		<dc:creator>What do you think of this article? &#124; Instructional Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MonaYounes</title>
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		<dc:creator>MonaYounes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi James, hi Manal, 

Finally I could find someone on the same &quot;wave&quot;. Yes, social media is there, but should only be there in classrooms, when there is a real need for it. Let&#039;s go back again, everything has to be linked to the main Learning Objectives of the curriculum. 

We, as educators, still have to do a lot to teach the &quot;digital natives&quot; about cultural issues, to be sensetive and alter, when using the social networking tools. Not much has been done in that aspect until now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi James, hi Manal, </p>
<p>Finally I could find someone on the same &#8220;wave&#8221;. Yes, social media is there, but should only be there in classrooms, when there is a real need for it. Let&#8217;s go back again, everything has to be linked to the main Learning Objectives of the curriculum. </p>
<p>We, as educators, still have to do a lot to teach the &#8220;digital natives&#8221; about cultural issues, to be sensetive and alter, when using the social networking tools. Not much has been done in that aspect until now.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Montagne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Montagne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff here Will and all who commented.  One point about Twitter and youth...of late, there has been an increase in the number of students at my school who are using twitter...I think this has to do with the number of celeb-types using it.   

Like so many schools, we&#039;re grappling with the should we/should we not question of teacher-student relationships on Facebook. Most schools are taking the approach of writing policy that bans such connections. I&#039;m not a fan at all of policy that targets particular tools...I don&#039;t know how Facebook could be singled out as most Web2.0 spaces have features that are highly social in nature. So if facebook as a space where teachers and students is blocked, then I would assume twitter, ning, blogger, voicethread and many other social learning tools would be banned as well. I hope some schools take the less popular approach, which is to really work hard to gain an understanding about the peer to peer learning that takes place using social software.

I take Chris Lehmann&#039;s approach as well...anything I write/post/publish online is intended to be viewed by a multi-age audience that could involve young students, teachers, parents, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff here Will and all who commented.  One point about Twitter and youth&#8230;of late, there has been an increase in the number of students at my school who are using twitter&#8230;I think this has to do with the number of celeb-types using it.   </p>
<p>Like so many schools, we&#8217;re grappling with the should we/should we not question of teacher-student relationships on Facebook. Most schools are taking the approach of writing policy that bans such connections. I&#8217;m not a fan at all of policy that targets particular tools&#8230;I don&#8217;t know how Facebook could be singled out as most Web2.0 spaces have features that are highly social in nature. So if facebook as a space where teachers and students is blocked, then I would assume twitter, ning, blogger, voicethread and many other social learning tools would be banned as well. I hope some schools take the less popular approach, which is to really work hard to gain an understanding about the peer to peer learning that takes place using social software.</p>
<p>I take Chris Lehmann&#8217;s approach as well&#8230;anything I write/post/publish online is intended to be viewed by a multi-age audience that could involve young students, teachers, parents, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Manal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, I could not agree more. Instead of condoning social networks like twitter and facebook, we, teachers should grab the opportunity to extrapolate lessons like cultural acceptance and making informed decisions. Teachers must ask themselves what is it that students like so much about such websites and try to incorporate cultural awareness and teach their pupils netiquette and how to make use of everything in a positive fashion. Technology is just like any other innovation: you can use it, misuse it and abuse it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, I could not agree more. Instead of condoning social networks like twitter and facebook, we, teachers should grab the opportunity to extrapolate lessons like cultural acceptance and making informed decisions. Teachers must ask themselves what is it that students like so much about such websites and try to incorporate cultural awareness and teach their pupils netiquette and how to make use of everything in a positive fashion. Technology is just like any other innovation: you can use it, misuse it and abuse it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too was interested in Chris&#039;s tweets.  &quot;His private life&quot; is led after he walks away from the computer, but our kids have always led almost their entire lives online.  We are, I think, fundamentally different in that way and helping kids &quot;to get&quot; that distinction feels a lot like a generation gap, especially when trying to communicate the idea to adolescents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too was interested in Chris&#8217;s tweets.  &#8220;His private life&#8221; is led after he walks away from the computer, but our kids have always led almost their entire lives online.  We are, I think, fundamentally different in that way and helping kids &#8220;to get&#8221; that distinction feels a lot like a generation gap, especially when trying to communicate the idea to adolescents.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Walters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Walters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps we need to adopt the &quot;ask forgiveness, not permission&quot; approach and &quot;just do it.&quot; Seth Godin says in &quot;Tribes&quot; (and just about everything else he writes) that innovation happens from the bottom up, not the top down in the modern culture. And if (when?) there are repercussions to our activities (from union officials, school attorneys, school administrators et al), perhaps we need to react with force and passion, as if what was at stake was the First Amendment. Those who patrol these issues at the local level are most afraid of whichever group is going to cause the biggest stink, so it seems to me that the best tactic is to become the Pepe LePew of the educational computing scene!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps we need to adopt the &#8220;ask forgiveness, not permission&#8221; approach and &#8220;just do it.&#8221; Seth Godin says in &#8220;Tribes&#8221; (and just about everything else he writes) that innovation happens from the bottom up, not the top down in the modern culture. And if (when?) there are repercussions to our activities (from union officials, school attorneys, school administrators et al), perhaps we need to react with force and passion, as if what was at stake was the First Amendment. Those who patrol these issues at the local level are most afraid of whichever group is going to cause the biggest stink, so it seems to me that the best tactic is to become the Pepe LePew of the educational computing scene!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Bretag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Bretag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These conversations are front and center in our high school right now. As we navigate this new world together as a community, we are building it, understanding it, and challenging it.

In my opinion, it is less about the answer and more about a common ground within our community and that takes honest conversations and moments of being uncomfortable.

Our recent conversation will take place during our All School Workshop where everyone in the school comes together in the spirit of community, conversation, and learning. 

Here is the link to our wiki that you might want to take a look at to see the structure for this conversation: http://gbnallschoolworkshop.wikispaces.com/Growing+Up+Digital</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These conversations are front and center in our high school right now. As we navigate this new world together as a community, we are building it, understanding it, and challenging it.</p>
<p>In my opinion, it is less about the answer and more about a common ground within our community and that takes honest conversations and moments of being uncomfortable.</p>
<p>Our recent conversation will take place during our All School Workshop where everyone in the school comes together in the spirit of community, conversation, and learning. </p>
<p>Here is the link to our wiki that you might want to take a look at to see the structure for this conversation: <a href="http://gbnallschoolworkshop.wikispaces.com/Growing+Up+Digital" rel="nofollow">http://gbnallschoolworkshop.wikispaces.com/Growing+Up+Digital</a></p>
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		<title>By: Larry Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I read your post and the subsequent comments, I have no solutions -- at least, none that are guaranteed to work universally.

However, I am struck with the notion that &quot;the fields are white unto harvest&quot; for true, authentic leadership to step forward, to assert bold actions that &lt;i&gt;allow&lt;/i&gt; (yes, I thought carefully about using that particular word) a cascade of educators to follow.

Now....won&#039;t it be very interesting to watch closely where that kind of leadership will come from?  (pardon that grammatical error, but economy of words forced me to leave it that way!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I read your post and the subsequent comments, I have no solutions &#8212; at least, none that are guaranteed to work universally.</p>
<p>However, I am struck with the notion that &#8220;the fields are white unto harvest&#8221; for true, authentic leadership to step forward, to assert bold actions that <i>allow</i> (yes, I thought carefully about using that particular word) a cascade of educators to follow.</p>
<p>Now&#8230;.won&#8217;t it be very interesting to watch closely where that kind of leadership will come from?  (pardon that grammatical error, but economy of words forced me to leave it that way!)</p>
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		<title>By: Will Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m wondering why, however, we&#039;re not allowed to use these tools for ourselves. What does that say about trust? Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering why, however, we&#8217;re not allowed to use these tools for ourselves. What does that say about trust? Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris&#039;s tweets included at the end of the post (and danah&#039;s talk) made me wonder...on some level, I think we all assume that young teachers fresh from college are going to help lead education towards responsible use of online tools.

But these young teachers established their online lives in high school and college. When their options are &quot;remove those pictures of you holding a beer&quot; or &quot;create an entirely new set of accounts&quot;, those young teachers will choose &quot;don&#039;t bring technology into the classroom&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris&#8217;s tweets included at the end of the post (and danah&#8217;s talk) made me wonder&#8230;on some level, I think we all assume that young teachers fresh from college are going to help lead education towards responsible use of online tools.</p>
<p>But these young teachers established their online lives in high school and college. When their options are &#8220;remove those pictures of you holding a beer&#8221; or &#8220;create an entirely new set of accounts&#8221;, those young teachers will choose &#8220;don&#8217;t bring technology into the classroom&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne Angle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne Angle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will,

Here&#039;s my problem - as a high school teacher (in Ohio) I/we have been actively discouraged from participating in social networking.  Union officials, school attorneys, administration - all have indicated in various ways that an online presence accessible by students is to be shunned.  We were even encouraged once by a state union rep to remove our (school) email address from the district-hosted homework posting page so kids couldn&#039;t email us!  So what&#039;s the point of the homework page??  Duh!

I know the majority of our students are online, and I agree that we can be positive role models for this activity.  And I&#039;d love to be able to post links and comments relating to class discussions and topics, as well as receive the same from my students.  Unfortunately, I agree that it seems as if I need to wait for &quot;public permission,&quot; or acceptance, before I can do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my problem &#8211; as a high school teacher (in Ohio) I/we have been actively discouraged from participating in social networking.  Union officials, school attorneys, administration &#8211; all have indicated in various ways that an online presence accessible by students is to be shunned.  We were even encouraged once by a state union rep to remove our (school) email address from the district-hosted homework posting page so kids couldn&#8217;t email us!  So what&#8217;s the point of the homework page??  Duh!</p>
<p>I know the majority of our students are online, and I agree that we can be positive role models for this activity.  And I&#8217;d love to be able to post links and comments relating to class discussions and topics, as well as receive the same from my students.  Unfortunately, I agree that it seems as if I need to wait for &#8220;public permission,&#8221; or acceptance, before I can do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mark,

Very cool to hear this, and I&#039;m sure you are not alone. I need to dig around more into these groups in Facebook...I might be surprised at what I find. Glad to hear you are making inroads at your school. Looking forward to the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mark,</p>
<p>Very cool to hear this, and I&#8217;m sure you are not alone. I need to dig around more into these groups in Facebook&#8230;I might be surprised at what I find. Glad to hear you are making inroads at your school. Looking forward to the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More and more I think it&#039;s waiting for the public to give us permission, or at least that&#039;s our perception. Thanks for the comment, James.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More and more I think it&#8217;s waiting for the public to give us permission, or at least that&#8217;s our perception. Thanks for the comment, James.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Ahlness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Ahlness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will, I was just going to post about my experience with Facebook at my elementary school. Yes, folks, it&#039;s here. 

A couple of days ago I stumbled on a FB group set up when our school was looking at being closed a few months ago. 131 members of that group. Nobody over 25, and many had been in my third grade classroom in days of yore. I checked out a few profiles and was amazed. I joined the group, so they&#039;d have a grandpa figure :) Wonder what that does to group dynamics? 

I looked further and found lots of parents from my school on FB, lots with daughters (many more than sons, go speculate...)  Keeping track of things? You bet. Interested in networking on their own? Also, you bet.

So I set up an official group for my elementary school. So far, parents and staff members have joined. Will teen/twentysomething alumni join? No idea. But now I&#039;m friending parents at my school. There are two staff members besides me on Facebook, but I must say, there is a lot of talk lately, so that&#039;s a good thing...

So many questions and unknowns. I only know that we absolutely must embrace this latest turn in the road of social connectivity. Thanks for pushing - Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will, I was just going to post about my experience with Facebook at my elementary school. Yes, folks, it&#8217;s here. </p>
<p>A couple of days ago I stumbled on a FB group set up when our school was looking at being closed a few months ago. 131 members of that group. Nobody over 25, and many had been in my third grade classroom in days of yore. I checked out a few profiles and was amazed. I joined the group, so they&#8217;d have a grandpa figure <img src='http://weblogg-ed.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Wonder what that does to group dynamics? </p>
<p>I looked further and found lots of parents from my school on FB, lots with daughters (many more than sons, go speculate&#8230;)  Keeping track of things? You bet. Interested in networking on their own? Also, you bet.</p>
<p>So I set up an official group for my elementary school. So far, parents and staff members have joined. Will teen/twentysomething alumni join? No idea. But now I&#8217;m friending parents at my school. There are two staff members besides me on Facebook, but I must say, there is a lot of talk lately, so that&#8217;s a good thing&#8230;</p>
<p>So many questions and unknowns. I only know that we absolutely must embrace this latest turn in the road of social connectivity. Thanks for pushing &#8211; Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Powers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Powers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed reading the talk that Danah gave. Thank you for passing it on.</description>
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