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		<title>By: InsideOLITA &#187; Trend-Spotting 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>InsideOLITA &#187; Trend-Spotting 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about the big shifts that the Read/Write web bring to how kids learn. In his Weblogg-ed post, Looking Back, Looking Forward; Slow Blogging, Slow Change, Richardson speculates on what it will take to effect [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jo-Anne Gibson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo-Anne Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 01:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an educator who&#039;s just getting started on the Read/Write/Share Web 2.0 journey.  I found you first through print (Blogs, Wikis, Podcasts and other Powerful Tools for the Classroom) which is where I think most educators today would  still find you initially despite the numerous contact points on the web.  Subsequently, I think your idea of writing more print materials is a good idea.  It&#039;s only then that teachers might find themselves moving toward the web with more confidence.

As the teacher-librarian in a large junior high school, I have vowed to show as many teachers as possible the power of RSS feeds so they can begin to see the big picture. It&#039;s been through my aggregator that I have realized the true potential of the Read/Write/Share Web.  I wrote about the importance of teachers learning about RSS feeds in my blog post: &quot;In Search of a Common Web 2.0 Vision&quot;  November 28, 2008  http://jagibson19.wordpress.com/2008/11/  (Web Jammin&#039; Blog).  I encourage you to check it out and let me know whether I&#039;m on the right track.

I follow many educators, including you, using Twitter but I find it not as educationally satisfying as the blogs I subscribe to. I also never been to a educational technology conference so I hope you keep the blogs coming new year.  I will be directing several teachers to you in the new year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an educator who&#8217;s just getting started on the Read/Write/Share Web 2.0 journey.  I found you first through print (Blogs, Wikis, Podcasts and other Powerful Tools for the Classroom) which is where I think most educators today would  still find you initially despite the numerous contact points on the web.  Subsequently, I think your idea of writing more print materials is a good idea.  It&#8217;s only then that teachers might find themselves moving toward the web with more confidence.</p>
<p>As the teacher-librarian in a large junior high school, I have vowed to show as many teachers as possible the power of RSS feeds so they can begin to see the big picture. It&#8217;s been through my aggregator that I have realized the true potential of the Read/Write/Share Web.  I wrote about the importance of teachers learning about RSS feeds in my blog post: &#8220;In Search of a Common Web 2.0 Vision&#8221;  November 28, 2008  <a href="http://jagibson19.wordpress.com/2008/11/" rel="nofollow">http://jagibson19.wordpress.com/2008/11/</a>  (Web Jammin&#8217; Blog).  I encourage you to check it out and let me know whether I&#8217;m on the right track.</p>
<p>I follow many educators, including you, using Twitter but I find it not as educationally satisfying as the blogs I subscribe to. I also never been to a educational technology conference so I hope you keep the blogs coming new year.  I will be directing several teachers to you in the new year.</p>
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		<title>By: U Tech Tips &#187; &#8216;09 Bringing social learning to the masses</title>
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		<dc:creator>U Tech Tips &#187; &#8216;09 Bringing social learning to the masses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Will Richardson has a similar thought about this year: So, looking forward, I’m still in the same place in terms of where I want to spend more of my energies…not so much on the people who have already showed up, but on the people who don’t know that this production is even playing. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Thinking Stick &#187; &#8216;09 Bringing social learning to the masses</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Thinking Stick &#187; &#8216;09 Bringing social learning to the masses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Will Richardson has a similar thought about this year: So, looking forward, I’m still in the same place in terms of where I want to spend more of my energies…not so much on the people who have already showed up, but on the people who don’t know that this production is even playing. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lee Anne Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee Anne Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I teach tech integration to area educators. I often feel I come off looking like a late night infomercial -- great idea, easy to use, low low investment, time saver, everybody will want one . . . but I wonder how many are actually sold? Like many PD educators, I can feel a little discouraged by the lack of a recognizable conversation or movement -- change. 

So here&#039;s what caught my eye in your post: &quot;You’d think with 350,000 we’d have some sort of organized movement or conversation. If anyone can tell me where it exists, please let me know.&quot;  More specifically, it&#039;s the word &quot;organized&quot; that got me thinking. 

I&#039;m not sure I can tell you &quot;where&quot; it exists, but I believe that it does and in quantity (maybe it&#039;s the quality that is missing?). What if the conversation reflects the medium? It&#039;s NOT organized. It IS self directed.  We expect to see change (a movement/a conversation) that we recognize. How can you define, describe, or measure something when you may not really recognize what you are looking at?

Just thinkin&#039;
Lee Anne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I teach tech integration to area educators. I often feel I come off looking like a late night infomercial &#8212; great idea, easy to use, low low investment, time saver, everybody will want one . . . but I wonder how many are actually sold? Like many PD educators, I can feel a little discouraged by the lack of a recognizable conversation or movement &#8212; change. </p>
<p>So here&#8217;s what caught my eye in your post: &#8220;You’d think with 350,000 we’d have some sort of organized movement or conversation. If anyone can tell me where it exists, please let me know.&#8221;  More specifically, it&#8217;s the word &#8220;organized&#8221; that got me thinking. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I can tell you &#8220;where&#8221; it exists, but I believe that it does and in quantity (maybe it&#8217;s the quality that is missing?). What if the conversation reflects the medium? It&#8217;s NOT organized. It IS self directed.  We expect to see change (a movement/a conversation) that we recognize. How can you define, describe, or measure something when you may not really recognize what you are looking at?</p>
<p>Just thinkin&#8217;<br />
Lee Anne</p>
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		<title>By: Slow Blogging, Depth and Meaning - and Credit Where it is Due : John Connell: The Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slow Blogging, Depth and Meaning - and Credit Where it is Due : John Connell: The Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] whimsical post on New Year&#8217;s Eve that proposed the idea, and then Will Richardson offered almost the same idea just a couple of days later. I took my inspiration from pointers given by Leigh Blackall and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jean Tower</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean Tower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 03:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t win people&#039;s minds in a single flash of brilliant oratorical genius - they are won slowly, by inches. I just want to say keep on keepin&#039; on. 
I also want to encourage you in your goal of getting your message out in offline media - I hope it continues to increase awareness of the issues you write about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t win people&#8217;s minds in a single flash of brilliant oratorical genius &#8211; they are won slowly, by inches. I just want to say keep on keepin&#8217; on.<br />
I also want to encourage you in your goal of getting your message out in offline media &#8211; I hope it continues to increase awareness of the issues you write about.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott McLeod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott McLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will, I would concur with AJ that there&#039;s likely a relationship between # of comments and # of readers. What&#039;s that relationship look like?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will, I would concur with AJ that there&#8217;s likely a relationship between # of comments and # of readers. What&#8217;s that relationship look like?</p>
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		<title>By: Kobus van Wyk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kobus van Wyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was getting worried about the slow take-up of superb technology usage by educators in South Africa ... now I read about your estimate/suggestion of 5%.  You can&#039;t imagine how much better I feel!  I am not alone any more!  It is not just an African thing!  It is happening in the developed world as well!

And by the way, I would also be interested in your Craft of Writing/Blogging/Essay initiative, once you get it off the ground.  I am a struggling blogger, with no formal blogging training (where on earth do you get such a thing?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was getting worried about the slow take-up of superb technology usage by educators in South Africa &#8230; now I read about your estimate/suggestion of 5%.  You can&#8217;t imagine how much better I feel!  I am not alone any more!  It is not just an African thing!  It is happening in the developed world as well!</p>
<p>And by the way, I would also be interested in your Craft of Writing/Blogging/Essay initiative, once you get it off the ground.  I am a struggling blogger, with no formal blogging training (where on earth do you get such a thing?).</p>
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		<title>By: Merdith Broderick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Merdith Broderick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 16:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got here because I saw you speak at November Learning in 2006. I paid for myself to go and was not disappointed at what I learned.  I was introduced to the shifts through you and a host of other people I track every day on RSS readers, which by the way I learned how to do from you. To some extent I have become somewhat disenchanted, with the slowness of change, and with the gurus who peddle this change. I have never been a fan of &quot;professional developers&quot; they are in it to some extent to make money, remind me of potion salesmen, like Mcgraw Hill and the Wright company,  and  like administrators are  removed the heart of the matter, teachers and students.

I also teach an unpopular group, I teach children who have been labeled ED, and have been previously thrown out of every decent school in our borough of NYC to end up at our school.  
over 90 percent of our kids fall below the poverty line, and a large portion  of them will do hard time in their life. ( I know this because I have been here for 25 years and I subscribe to our local paper.) Of course jail time in a country that 1 in 100 are thrown in jail at some point or another is not really that impressive, add in the variable that about 80 percent of my students are black males, and that other impressive statistic that 13 percent of black males have been convicted of felonies, and it is even less impressive.  

My take on the shifts is that this could really help the most disenfranchised group of people I know, and have been blessed to work with these past 25 years.  That is another phrase that loses it&#039;s meaning in our current climate, disenfranchised, when the whole country is going bankrupt, even the billionaires seem disenfranchised. 
But just in case we needed reminding there still is a poverty class in this nation, and it does seem a shame they also have  the bad luck to not only be  poor but their kids are labeled crazy from the time they are 4 years old. Thats right most of the kids I teach 5-7th grade were identified at 4 or 5 years old as being &quot; emotionally disturbed&quot;.  
My point to you is I have made it personal my business to introduce my students, parents, and my colleagues  to these shifts. Not that anyone cares because really the kids I teach and their families have been written off long ago when the social experiment of the  Great Society was deemed a failure. ( Just ask Corey Booker). But I do. I have spent my life here,  and I can attest if anyone needs the advantages that Web 2.0 and 3.0 and social networks, and these tools  can provide they do. 
You were a large part of the&quot; shift&quot; in my teaching .  I still read you every day or two, as I do about 98 other people on bloglines, and egad I actually practice some and use a good portion of this stuff in the classroom. My kids have their own delicious accounts, run blogs, make their own films, use google earth/maps and utilize a host of other tools thanks to you and people like you who blog sharing what they know. With out this blog and others like it and ( rss readers) you would have just been another PD guy, peddling his potions. It the connections and the ease that we can make them through these tools that have made you a factor in my student&#039;s lives. I realize you are lookikng for a bigger impact. But perhaps the small ones count as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got here because I saw you speak at November Learning in 2006. I paid for myself to go and was not disappointed at what I learned.  I was introduced to the shifts through you and a host of other people I track every day on RSS readers, which by the way I learned how to do from you. To some extent I have become somewhat disenchanted, with the slowness of change, and with the gurus who peddle this change. I have never been a fan of &#8220;professional developers&#8221; they are in it to some extent to make money, remind me of potion salesmen, like Mcgraw Hill and the Wright company,  and  like administrators are  removed the heart of the matter, teachers and students.</p>
<p>I also teach an unpopular group, I teach children who have been labeled ED, and have been previously thrown out of every decent school in our borough of NYC to end up at our school.<br />
over 90 percent of our kids fall below the poverty line, and a large portion  of them will do hard time in their life. ( I know this because I have been here for 25 years and I subscribe to our local paper.) Of course jail time in a country that 1 in 100 are thrown in jail at some point or another is not really that impressive, add in the variable that about 80 percent of my students are black males, and that other impressive statistic that 13 percent of black males have been convicted of felonies, and it is even less impressive.  </p>
<p>My take on the shifts is that this could really help the most disenfranchised group of people I know, and have been blessed to work with these past 25 years.  That is another phrase that loses it&#8217;s meaning in our current climate, disenfranchised, when the whole country is going bankrupt, even the billionaires seem disenfranchised.<br />
But just in case we needed reminding there still is a poverty class in this nation, and it does seem a shame they also have  the bad luck to not only be  poor but their kids are labeled crazy from the time they are 4 years old. Thats right most of the kids I teach 5-7th grade were identified at 4 or 5 years old as being &#8221; emotionally disturbed&#8221;.<br />
My point to you is I have made it personal my business to introduce my students, parents, and my colleagues  to these shifts. Not that anyone cares because really the kids I teach and their families have been written off long ago when the social experiment of the  Great Society was deemed a failure. ( Just ask Corey Booker). But I do. I have spent my life here,  and I can attest if anyone needs the advantages that Web 2.0 and 3.0 and social networks, and these tools  can provide they do.<br />
You were a large part of the&#8221; shift&#8221; in my teaching .  I still read you every day or two, as I do about 98 other people on bloglines, and egad I actually practice some and use a good portion of this stuff in the classroom. My kids have their own delicious accounts, run blogs, make their own films, use google earth/maps and utilize a host of other tools thanks to you and people like you who blog sharing what they know. With out this blog and others like it and ( rss readers) you would have just been another PD guy, peddling his potions. It the connections and the ease that we can make them through these tools that have made you a factor in my student&#8217;s lives. I realize you are lookikng for a bigger impact. But perhaps the small ones count as well.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ Cann</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ Cann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 09:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve fallen into the trap of assuming correlation = causation, which it could do but there&#039;s no way to know this. Seems to me a more likely explanation is that the number of comments on your blog follows the length of time you have been blogging and the number of readers rather than the number of posts.</description>
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		<title>By: A Day of Learning &#171; Classroom Tech Tips</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Day of Learning &#171; Classroom Tech Tips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Darren&#8217;s interview I logged into Elluminate to participate in a discussion facilitated by Will Richardson on 21st C literacies. Wow! Did the discussion fly! At times it seemed disjointed and it felt like [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bob Cotter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Cotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I looked at your pencast and listened to your description of this series of events and while it does appear there is a relationship between the number of blog posts and the number of comments, I don&#039;t think the relationship is causal. 

If I was going to speculate, I&#039;d say it has more to do with the number of bloggers and blog readers who are more comfortable now that in the past few years about writing comments and engaging in at least a bit of conversation. 

You and other influential writers on the topic of blogging have consistently promoted the idea that comments are a very important consideration for teachers working with students on class blogs. I imagine much of that &quot;teaching&quot; on your part is showing results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked at your pencast and listened to your description of this series of events and while it does appear there is a relationship between the number of blog posts and the number of comments, I don&#8217;t think the relationship is causal. </p>
<p>If I was going to speculate, I&#8217;d say it has more to do with the number of bloggers and blog readers who are more comfortable now that in the past few years about writing comments and engaging in at least a bit of conversation. </p>
<p>You and other influential writers on the topic of blogging have consistently promoted the idea that comments are a very important consideration for teachers working with students on class blogs. I imagine much of that &#8220;teaching&#8221; on your part is showing results.</p>
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		<title>By: Goals, Resolutions&#8230; Excuse Me While I Yawn &#187; CogDogBlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goals, Resolutions&#8230; Excuse Me While I Yawn &#187; CogDogBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sees value on blogging less. Beth offers great detail to address 3 broad goals. George reflects on going for more depth. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Howie (Did You Know Guy) DiBlasi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howie (Did You Know Guy) DiBlasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great thought Will,

I especially liked your comment;
“But if you take the aggregate effect of all of us supposed idea peddlars, I’m not sure that’s where substantive change is happening.”

Over the past year of presenting, keynotes, feature presentations and hands-on workshops, and updating the “Did You Know “ series, I think all of the “Idea Peddlars” wonder about the impact we have.  In my keynotes this past year I share a quote that was written in 1776 (see below)…something to think about.

“I am not complacent at all John.  I have gone through experiences such as this for a very long time.  I know I am right.  I make the good argument, write the wise articles, and the persuasive letters.  And sometimes I feel as though I am preaching to a stack of wood.  People do not easily embrace change.  Convincing them to turn in a new direction requires a patience and persistence that tax everyone.  It does not help matters that the course we are attempting to follow could get us all hanged”

Ben Franklin talking to John Adams , June 7, 1776

Best to you in 2009
Howie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great thought Will,</p>
<p>I especially liked your comment;<br />
“But if you take the aggregate effect of all of us supposed idea peddlars, I’m not sure that’s where substantive change is happening.”</p>
<p>Over the past year of presenting, keynotes, feature presentations and hands-on workshops, and updating the “Did You Know “ series, I think all of the “Idea Peddlars” wonder about the impact we have.  In my keynotes this past year I share a quote that was written in 1776 (see below)…something to think about.</p>
<p>“I am not complacent at all John.  I have gone through experiences such as this for a very long time.  I know I am right.  I make the good argument, write the wise articles, and the persuasive letters.  And sometimes I feel as though I am preaching to a stack of wood.  People do not easily embrace change.  Convincing them to turn in a new direction requires a patience and persistence that tax everyone.  It does not help matters that the course we are attempting to follow could get us all hanged”</p>
<p>Ben Franklin talking to John Adams , June 7, 1776</p>
<p>Best to you in 2009<br />
Howie</p>
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