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		<title>By: Erik Jorgensen</title>
		<link>http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/what-do-we-know-about-our-kids-futures-really/comment-page-2/#comment-48159</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Jorgensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could not agree more with the likelihood of significant changes and difficult predictions around what an &quot;educated&quot; person will look like in the next generation - and I agree also with the critical importance of better educating kids to collaborate, use technology, and be connected and aware - the whole list at the top of this post is, frankly, laudable. 

But let&#039;s also make sure that in the rush to prepare kids with the tools for tomorrow, they don&#039;t miss out on gaining an understanding of history, literature, culture - the bodies of knowledge that give people a perspective on where they are, and where they came from, what citizenship is, and what history should not be repeated. With those, to borrow from the brilliant and subversive prose of the National Arts and Humanities Act of 1965, they will have a shot at being &quot;masters of their technology rather than its unthinking servants&quot;.

Each generation (especially as its members get older) assumes that the change it faces is proceeding more profoundly, scarily and quickly than it ever has before. Sure seems that way to me, but I am not sure I would like to argue that with someone who lived through the industrial revolution, for example.


This is a fascinating thread - thanks for so many interesting posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could not agree more with the likelihood of significant changes and difficult predictions around what an &#8220;educated&#8221; person will look like in the next generation &#8211; and I agree also with the critical importance of better educating kids to collaborate, use technology, and be connected and aware &#8211; the whole list at the top of this post is, frankly, laudable. </p>
<p>But let&#8217;s also make sure that in the rush to prepare kids with the tools for tomorrow, they don&#8217;t miss out on gaining an understanding of history, literature, culture &#8211; the bodies of knowledge that give people a perspective on where they are, and where they came from, what citizenship is, and what history should not be repeated. With those, to borrow from the brilliant and subversive prose of the National Arts and Humanities Act of 1965, they will have a shot at being &#8220;masters of their technology rather than its unthinking servants&#8221;.</p>
<p>Each generation (especially as its members get older) assumes that the change it faces is proceeding more profoundly, scarily and quickly than it ever has before. Sure seems that way to me, but I am not sure I would like to argue that with someone who lived through the industrial revolution, for example.</p>
<p>This is a fascinating thread &#8211; thanks for so many interesting posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeannie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeannie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Acutally, Hannah, I believe active to live is exactly the point.  I recently heard that the children being born now are expected to be the first generation that does not outlive their parents due to poor eating habits, a sedentary lifestyle, and the environment.  Therefore, activity--physical and mental--seems to be VITAL to life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Acutally, Hannah, I believe active to live is exactly the point.  I recently heard that the children being born now are expected to be the first generation that does not outlive their parents due to poor eating habits, a sedentary lifestyle, and the environment.  Therefore, activity&#8211;physical and mental&#8211;seems to be VITAL to life.</p>
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		<title>By: Veronica Pollack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veronica Pollack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 02:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is challenging to predict what our children’s worlds will be like when they grow up.  We need to prepare them in a broad variety of areas so that we can insure they have a base for the future.  If things end up changing, which we can pretty much guarantee they will, then curriculum can be modified as they are on their way through their education.  This also requires that us as educators stay aware of the new things that are entering our world, so that we can introduce these into our children’s lives as early as we can.  We must keep our eyes and ears open.  
I think it’s safe to say that people will always be advancing something, in regards to intelligence and a human’s natural tendency to be competitive.  Therefore, technology will be one thing that keeps changing in ways we probably can’t comprehend right now.  
It also depends on the level of education we are talking about.  A much broader approach should be taken in the younger grades, covering all subject areas and current events.  As they get older informing them about politics will become more important, because they will understand it better.  Also, it will be better known the kinds of professions that are available, and what kind of specializations they become interested in.  When they get older and decide what they want to do, there will be a better idea of what they will need to know.  This will allow that development in programs, as long as educators are paying attention to what is going on in the world.  It is also important to make sure the students are aware of what is happening politically and environmentally, because these are all global effects of everyone’s future, regardless of profession.  
I would also like to inquire as to what you mean by ‘paper training our kids’.  Are you referring to writing papers while in school?  I like your other points on what needs to be covered in education.  Those are all things that should be included.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is challenging to predict what our children’s worlds will be like when they grow up.  We need to prepare them in a broad variety of areas so that we can insure they have a base for the future.  If things end up changing, which we can pretty much guarantee they will, then curriculum can be modified as they are on their way through their education.  This also requires that us as educators stay aware of the new things that are entering our world, so that we can introduce these into our children’s lives as early as we can.  We must keep our eyes and ears open.<br />
I think it’s safe to say that people will always be advancing something, in regards to intelligence and a human’s natural tendency to be competitive.  Therefore, technology will be one thing that keeps changing in ways we probably can’t comprehend right now.<br />
It also depends on the level of education we are talking about.  A much broader approach should be taken in the younger grades, covering all subject areas and current events.  As they get older informing them about politics will become more important, because they will understand it better.  Also, it will be better known the kinds of professions that are available, and what kind of specializations they become interested in.  When they get older and decide what they want to do, there will be a better idea of what they will need to know.  This will allow that development in programs, as long as educators are paying attention to what is going on in the world.  It is also important to make sure the students are aware of what is happening politically and environmentally, because these are all global effects of everyone’s future, regardless of profession.<br />
I would also like to inquire as to what you mean by ‘paper training our kids’.  Are you referring to writing papers while in school?  I like your other points on what needs to be covered in education.  Those are all things that should be included.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Knee</title>
		<link>http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/what-do-we-know-about-our-kids-futures-really/comment-page-2/#comment-47342</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Knee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a college student pursuing in education, this is topic that has been discussed in my education classes.  You are right that although we are educators, we really have no idea what future we are preparing our students for.  And like you have stated, this does pose the question of what exactly our curriculum should consist of.  

It is important to teach students skills that will apply to many different contexts.  Working closely with others, training in technology, and making students more active are in my mind the three most important items that you have listed.  People will always need other people and will have to know how to work and communicate with them.  This is very easy to implement with group work, projects, and research.  Our society is becoming more and more technologically advanced and it would be foolish not to realize and help to train students to be technologically savvy (i.e., searching for internet resources, source validity, etc.).  Active students are essential because they develop into active citizens.  

I also think that it is important to look at the area of logic/reasoning.  While this topic is “covered” in many classes, it isn’t ever specifically addressed.  To create individuals who are good at working with others and are competent social and political activity they need to possess critical thinking skills.  So often we fall prey to illogical arguments and poorly-based information.  We need to teach students to reason and argue effectively.

Kyle Knee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a college student pursuing in education, this is topic that has been discussed in my education classes.  You are right that although we are educators, we really have no idea what future we are preparing our students for.  And like you have stated, this does pose the question of what exactly our curriculum should consist of.  </p>
<p>It is important to teach students skills that will apply to many different contexts.  Working closely with others, training in technology, and making students more active are in my mind the three most important items that you have listed.  People will always need other people and will have to know how to work and communicate with them.  This is very easy to implement with group work, projects, and research.  Our society is becoming more and more technologically advanced and it would be foolish not to realize and help to train students to be technologically savvy (i.e., searching for internet resources, source validity, etc.).  Active students are essential because they develop into active citizens.  </p>
<p>I also think that it is important to look at the area of logic/reasoning.  While this topic is “covered” in many classes, it isn’t ever specifically addressed.  To create individuals who are good at working with others and are competent social and political activity they need to possess critical thinking skills.  So often we fall prey to illogical arguments and poorly-based information.  We need to teach students to reason and argue effectively.</p>
<p>Kyle Knee</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Becker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Becker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

I&#039;m Student from ISU posting for a class on your blog.

I agree with a lot you have to say about preparing students for the future.  I think our world is going to be exponentially smaller for the future graduate.  Competition will be fierce.  And the job applicicant who can demonstrate his ablily to effectivly communicate with people from all over the world and show an advance knowledge of the newest techonology will have the edge.  I think a lot of our time in school is wasted on memorizing facts, dates, and forumlas when this information is available to us with the click of a mouse.  I think we should spend a bit more time teaching our students HOW to access this information and HOW to network with other people rather than drilling them in mundate facts they will probably forget after a few nights of freshman college parties.  



While i do beleive that education and learning in itself is valued and we shouldn&#039;t ONLY indoctrinate students into the jobforce.  However, we need to prepare them somewhat so college graduates don&#039;t feel so much like a gold fish in an ocean full of sharks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m Student from ISU posting for a class on your blog.</p>
<p>I agree with a lot you have to say about preparing students for the future.  I think our world is going to be exponentially smaller for the future graduate.  Competition will be fierce.  And the job applicicant who can demonstrate his ablily to effectivly communicate with people from all over the world and show an advance knowledge of the newest techonology will have the edge.  I think a lot of our time in school is wasted on memorizing facts, dates, and forumlas when this information is available to us with the click of a mouse.  I think we should spend a bit more time teaching our students HOW to access this information and HOW to network with other people rather than drilling them in mundate facts they will probably forget after a few nights of freshman college parties.  </p>
<p>While i do beleive that education and learning in itself is valued and we shouldn&#8217;t ONLY indoctrinate students into the jobforce.  However, we need to prepare them somewhat so college graduates don&#8217;t feel so much like a gold fish in an ocean full of sharks.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
		<link>http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/what-do-we-know-about-our-kids-futures-really/comment-page-2/#comment-47221</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>•	Networked–They’ll need an “outboard brain.” 
Agree completely. Not just any 50 hp Mercury either, I won’t be able to drink enough coffee to keep up. 
•	More collaborative–They are going to need to work closely with people to co-create information. 
I would qualify this as online collaborating, and not necessarily face to face collaboration. Different beast, different set of skills, different interactions entirely, much less “saving face” and very little of the sensitivity that is present in person to person encounters. However, could this prove more effective and productive when you get past the niceties? 
•	More globally aware–Those collaborators may be anywhere in the world.
Absolutely – however I do not necessarily agree with the later assertion that they will be more connected to their communities and environments, the world-yes. But locally… hmmmm not sure. 
•	Less dependent on paper–Right now, we are still paper training our kids.
Won’t that be a tidy prospect, all sorts of clean right there. Less waste, no stinky paper mills, no paperwad basketball breakouts over the trash can. I do still like to hand write my thoughts though, in pencil with a big eraser. Habit I guess….. 
•	More active–In just about every sense of the word. Physically. Socially. Politically. 
I can see the breadth of social interaction increasing, but depth – still not sure. I can’t really gauge the depth of these electronic interactions. I realize there are many online interactions that go quite deep and result in personally gratifying relationships, the technology natives will initiate more relationships this way. Most of us tech immigrants use it as a convenient way to keep up on existing relations. I’m not convinced that they will be physically more active, at least not in the pre-toy/television sort of way. We are culturally stuck on our butts much of the time, in work, in leisure, in play. I do not see a trend the other direction despite the obesity epidemic. Politically I believe will was and wane with the times. We are in a current of growing activism at the present time. But complacency is always at the door awaiting the right circumstances. 
•	Fluent in creating and consuming hypertext–Basic reading and writing skills will not suffice. 
Si, Oui, Yes
•	More connected–To their communities, to their environments, to the world. 
Again, our “paper” trash, will be tomorrows e-trash. The future generations will be dumping their much more toxic and much less biodegradable e-waste into the ground – or perhaps into space with all the other floating junk. They will be solving a different set of environmental concerns. I do not see how technology is going to draw them closer to the environment. I assume the reference is to planetary environs. I also think as we grow increasingly globally connected and outward focused that community connections may grow weedy. 

•	Editors of information–Something we should have been teaching them all along but is even more important now.
Agree, however difficult. It seems we are being prompted to step aside and let them walk on their own earlier and earlier. The focus needs to shift to teaching evaluative skills and discernment. I like the word empowered. They are an empowered lot, they CAN DO much. It is the how and why that needs to be nurtured. 

Much to mull over, thanks for the prompt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>•	Networked–They’ll need an “outboard brain.”<br />
Agree completely. Not just any 50 hp Mercury either, I won’t be able to drink enough coffee to keep up.<br />
•	More collaborative–They are going to need to work closely with people to co-create information.<br />
I would qualify this as online collaborating, and not necessarily face to face collaboration. Different beast, different set of skills, different interactions entirely, much less “saving face” and very little of the sensitivity that is present in person to person encounters. However, could this prove more effective and productive when you get past the niceties?<br />
•	More globally aware–Those collaborators may be anywhere in the world.<br />
Absolutely – however I do not necessarily agree with the later assertion that they will be more connected to their communities and environments, the world-yes. But locally… hmmmm not sure.<br />
•	Less dependent on paper–Right now, we are still paper training our kids.<br />
Won’t that be a tidy prospect, all sorts of clean right there. Less waste, no stinky paper mills, no paperwad basketball breakouts over the trash can. I do still like to hand write my thoughts though, in pencil with a big eraser. Habit I guess…..<br />
•	More active–In just about every sense of the word. Physically. Socially. Politically.<br />
I can see the breadth of social interaction increasing, but depth – still not sure. I can’t really gauge the depth of these electronic interactions. I realize there are many online interactions that go quite deep and result in personally gratifying relationships, the technology natives will initiate more relationships this way. Most of us tech immigrants use it as a convenient way to keep up on existing relations. I’m not convinced that they will be physically more active, at least not in the pre-toy/television sort of way. We are culturally stuck on our butts much of the time, in work, in leisure, in play. I do not see a trend the other direction despite the obesity epidemic. Politically I believe will was and wane with the times. We are in a current of growing activism at the present time. But complacency is always at the door awaiting the right circumstances.<br />
•	Fluent in creating and consuming hypertext–Basic reading and writing skills will not suffice.<br />
Si, Oui, Yes<br />
•	More connected–To their communities, to their environments, to the world.<br />
Again, our “paper” trash, will be tomorrows e-trash. The future generations will be dumping their much more toxic and much less biodegradable e-waste into the ground – or perhaps into space with all the other floating junk. They will be solving a different set of environmental concerns. I do not see how technology is going to draw them closer to the environment. I assume the reference is to planetary environs. I also think as we grow increasingly globally connected and outward focused that community connections may grow weedy. </p>
<p>•	Editors of information–Something we should have been teaching them all along but is even more important now.<br />
Agree, however difficult. It seems we are being prompted to step aside and let them walk on their own earlier and earlier. The focus needs to shift to teaching evaluative skills and discernment. I like the word empowered. They are an empowered lot, they CAN DO much. It is the how and why that needs to be nurtured. </p>
<p>Much to mull over, thanks for the prompt.</p>
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		<title>By: Fionn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fionn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do understand the resistance to the demand that education is about preparing &quot;people for jobs&quot;, like a vocational school teaching how to change the oil in a car or to build a house.  I much enjoyed, way back in the 1950&#039;s, Shop and doing &quot;mechanical drawings&quot;, but when i turned my drawings into real life wood, making a rocking horse for my young sister, the results were, well, not rocking.  In other words, that sort of education didn&#039;t &quot;work&quot; for me, while other sorts of education did.
And it is the part that did that has given me the skills and the passions to teach now.  That is, my education was and remains extraordinary, a great gift, to be doing precisely what I am doing now, good work I hope, in teaching my students.  

I think teaching is about not so much &quot;jobs&quot;, a denigrating term, but equipping young people to do good work, productive work, making the world a richer and kinder place because of their kind capacities of understanding and critical care.  

I DO think that teaching is precisely for preparing students to do good work in their lives.  What they choose to do is theirs to find, and I hope to give them encouragement and blessings to choose where they most find a way to blessings all around, to good work.  That is, after all, what &quot;vocational&quot; means, responding to a sense of being &quot;called&quot;, like young Samuel in the Temple late at night -- so, how does each student hear her or his &quot;call&quot;, and how can I help them hear and respond, as good old Eli taught Samuel to hear and respond.  I believe our students are all such &quot;judges&quot; and &quot;prophets&quot; and &quot;called&quot; no less than Samuel was into good work in making the world and all of us new in their discoveries, wonders, and care.  That&#039;s what I trust.  Not, I suppose, the diminutive of &quot;jobs&quot;, but definitely the ability of my students to do good work in the calling that is theirs.

And I think that the internet connections, when critically taught, like Eli taught Samuel to hear, can be calls to vocations beyond my, or any teacher&#039;s, ability to judge -- but we can bless their choosings and wait upon their learnings, and anoint them blessed in our trust in their learning, their good work.  

Cheers -- Fionn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do understand the resistance to the demand that education is about preparing &#8220;people for jobs&#8221;, like a vocational school teaching how to change the oil in a car or to build a house.  I much enjoyed, way back in the 1950&#8242;s, Shop and doing &#8220;mechanical drawings&#8221;, but when i turned my drawings into real life wood, making a rocking horse for my young sister, the results were, well, not rocking.  In other words, that sort of education didn&#8217;t &#8220;work&#8221; for me, while other sorts of education did.<br />
And it is the part that did that has given me the skills and the passions to teach now.  That is, my education was and remains extraordinary, a great gift, to be doing precisely what I am doing now, good work I hope, in teaching my students.  </p>
<p>I think teaching is about not so much &#8220;jobs&#8221;, a denigrating term, but equipping young people to do good work, productive work, making the world a richer and kinder place because of their kind capacities of understanding and critical care.  </p>
<p>I DO think that teaching is precisely for preparing students to do good work in their lives.  What they choose to do is theirs to find, and I hope to give them encouragement and blessings to choose where they most find a way to blessings all around, to good work.  That is, after all, what &#8220;vocational&#8221; means, responding to a sense of being &#8220;called&#8221;, like young Samuel in the Temple late at night &#8212; so, how does each student hear her or his &#8220;call&#8221;, and how can I help them hear and respond, as good old Eli taught Samuel to hear and respond.  I believe our students are all such &#8220;judges&#8221; and &#8220;prophets&#8221; and &#8220;called&#8221; no less than Samuel was into good work in making the world and all of us new in their discoveries, wonders, and care.  That&#8217;s what I trust.  Not, I suppose, the diminutive of &#8220;jobs&#8221;, but definitely the ability of my students to do good work in the calling that is theirs.</p>
<p>And I think that the internet connections, when critically taught, like Eli taught Samuel to hear, can be calls to vocations beyond my, or any teacher&#8217;s, ability to judge &#8212; but we can bless their choosings and wait upon their learnings, and anoint them blessed in our trust in their learning, their good work.  </p>
<p>Cheers &#8212; Fionn</p>
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		<title>By: prasanth</title>
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		<dc:creator>prasanth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i never believed in educating people for jobs.</description>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 05:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,
I was extremely intrigued by your blog entry but we must force kids to experience all subject so it will help them figure out what they want to do with their lives.  Most of my friends entering their freshman year of college had no idea what they wanted to major in and were lost from the start.  I did like your comment on how children should be able to “network” out of their schools and be able to talk to professionals in all positions they are interested in.  If we can do this as educators then we will be able to find out our students strengths and weaknesses and what their interests are so we can lead them toward that future. When I applied to college I knew I wanted to be a teacher since early high school but I still wasn’t aware of all of the job opportunities out their and I never asked questions because I didn’t know where to start asking.  Also I believe that teachers should be teaching the present as much as they are as the past because learning what is going on around the world around them is much more important then the world in the past but it is also necessary to teach the past to prevent the mistakes that were once done.

Don</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
I was extremely intrigued by your blog entry but we must force kids to experience all subject so it will help them figure out what they want to do with their lives.  Most of my friends entering their freshman year of college had no idea what they wanted to major in and were lost from the start.  I did like your comment on how children should be able to “network” out of their schools and be able to talk to professionals in all positions they are interested in.  If we can do this as educators then we will be able to find out our students strengths and weaknesses and what their interests are so we can lead them toward that future. When I applied to college I knew I wanted to be a teacher since early high school but I still wasn’t aware of all of the job opportunities out their and I never asked questions because I didn’t know where to start asking.  Also I believe that teachers should be teaching the present as much as they are as the past because learning what is going on around the world around them is much more important then the world in the past but it is also necessary to teach the past to prevent the mistakes that were once done.</p>
<p>Don</p>
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		<title>By: Britt Watwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Britt Watwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In our office, we have been using wordclouds to look at underlying themes, so I thought it would be interesting to capture Will&#039;s original post and the 73 comments above, and create a workcloud from them. I used TagCrowd, which makes it very easy. 

The results are posted at http://bwatwood.edublogs.org/2008/02/26/our-kids-futures/

I think the themes speak for themselves!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In our office, we have been using wordclouds to look at underlying themes, so I thought it would be interesting to capture Will&#8217;s original post and the 73 comments above, and create a workcloud from them. I used TagCrowd, which makes it very easy. </p>
<p>The results are posted at <a href="http://bwatwood.edublogs.org/2008/02/26/our-kids-futures/" rel="nofollow">http://bwatwood.edublogs.org/2008/02/26/our-kids-futures/</a></p>
<p>I think the themes speak for themselves!</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Our Kids Future(s) Learning In a Flat World: Fun but Bumpy!</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Our Kids Future(s) Learning In a Flat World: Fun but Bumpy!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was heading down to eLearning 2008, Will Richardson made an interesting blog post entitled, &#8220;What Do We Know About Our Kid&#8217;s Future, Really?&#8220;. I commented and have followed the ensuing conversation, which now is up to 73 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was heading down to eLearning 2008, Will Richardson made an interesting blog post entitled, &#8220;What Do We Know About Our Kid&#8217;s Future, Really?&#8220;. I commented and have followed the ensuing conversation, which now is up to 73 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fionn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fionn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicholas,

First, let me say that i&#039;m happy that whatever i said didn&#039;t just disappear into the virtual vapor, and that we found a chance to talk and listen in the company of Will Richardson and others.  

I do think that the thing to consider in terms of teaching in technology is aptly noted in your recognition that we have little secure knowledge (after all, my folks sure didn&#039;t about me, nor their folks about them) of what will be &quot;needed&quot; -- but needed for what?  That&#039;s the ever question, ain&#039;t it?

It is a job?  And if it is basically vocationaly training we are doing in education, then is there any moral, social, historial, literary, scientific, mathematical, artistic community in which the vocation is meant to be done, achieved, accomplished?  These are critical questions that mere media, whether books or papers or images or digital internet have no way to decide.  We have to decide about the community of human being that we want to live in, want to cherish and promote.  

What, after all, are &quot;larger concepts later on in life&quot;?  We need to teach, confess, learn with students not just the skills, but also what are &quot;larger concepts&quot;, something, after all, more than getting into college or making lots of money.  

I am not sure that &quot;the newest material&quot;, at the moment, is worth fretting about when we agree that the world of our students, our children, will be years and many &quot;newest&quot; hence.  But yes, of course, we need to be up-to-date and best that we can.  That, tho&#039;, doesn&#039;t seem to me to be enuf to bless our students into a lively newness to find in the ways of their own learning, and to hobble myself along and blessing beside.

I know you are younger in teaching and eager with students on, and you&#039;ve all my blessings.  Forgive my old hobbling....and good times making all things new.

Cheers -- Fionn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicholas,</p>
<p>First, let me say that i&#8217;m happy that whatever i said didn&#8217;t just disappear into the virtual vapor, and that we found a chance to talk and listen in the company of Will Richardson and others.  </p>
<p>I do think that the thing to consider in terms of teaching in technology is aptly noted in your recognition that we have little secure knowledge (after all, my folks sure didn&#8217;t about me, nor their folks about them) of what will be &#8220;needed&#8221; &#8212; but needed for what?  That&#8217;s the ever question, ain&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>It is a job?  And if it is basically vocationaly training we are doing in education, then is there any moral, social, historial, literary, scientific, mathematical, artistic community in which the vocation is meant to be done, achieved, accomplished?  These are critical questions that mere media, whether books or papers or images or digital internet have no way to decide.  We have to decide about the community of human being that we want to live in, want to cherish and promote.  </p>
<p>What, after all, are &#8220;larger concepts later on in life&#8221;?  We need to teach, confess, learn with students not just the skills, but also what are &#8220;larger concepts&#8221;, something, after all, more than getting into college or making lots of money.  </p>
<p>I am not sure that &#8220;the newest material&#8221;, at the moment, is worth fretting about when we agree that the world of our students, our children, will be years and many &#8220;newest&#8221; hence.  But yes, of course, we need to be up-to-date and best that we can.  That, tho&#8217;, doesn&#8217;t seem to me to be enuf to bless our students into a lively newness to find in the ways of their own learning, and to hobble myself along and blessing beside.</p>
<p>I know you are younger in teaching and eager with students on, and you&#8217;ve all my blessings.  Forgive my old hobbling&#8230;.and good times making all things new.</p>
<p>Cheers &#8212; Fionn</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Michalek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas Michalek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am studying to be a teacher in the technology section and I found your blog very interesting.  It is very true, we have no idea what our students are going to be doing for carriers, so how are we supposed to teach them today for jobs in the future?  The answer that I have found as a aspiring instructor is that we cannot know what to teach them specifically.  The  best we can do is keep up on the newest material that comes out and relate that to our students.  I think what we should do in our current situation is teach them the basic skills and problem solving skills that will allow them to grasp larger concepts later on in life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am studying to be a teacher in the technology section and I found your blog very interesting.  It is very true, we have no idea what our students are going to be doing for carriers, so how are we supposed to teach them today for jobs in the future?  The answer that I have found as a aspiring instructor is that we cannot know what to teach them specifically.  The  best we can do is keep up on the newest material that comes out and relate that to our students.  I think what we should do in our current situation is teach them the basic skills and problem solving skills that will allow them to grasp larger concepts later on in life.</p>
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		<title>By: Fionn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fionn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  The huge number of comments in all their variety suggest that this question, and Will&#039;s attempt to answer it in a provisional way, pushes a red-alert button in us all.  We all, i suspect, have experiences when just such a question, and a ready answer, was visited upon us when we were younger. The traditional notion is that kids don&#039;t know anything til they grow up and have kids of their own and then they discover how smart, surprisingly, their parents were!  That seems to me much going on in the response to this blog.  And it is certainly part of my own knee-jerk response to the blog.

And, of course, we&#039;ve no clue really what &quot;Our Kids&#039; Futures&quot; will be -- and for me, i&#039;m thinking about my grandchild, 1 year old a month ago.  He&#039;s now playing on a laptop i gave to his father when he was travelling in Southeast Asia a few years ago, while his father works at home on a new Mac doing editing, writing, reviews, etc.  
Since my son is now home working, and with a one year old, what would have been central for him to learn?  -- Alas, Home Ec was not a likely choice for him.  And how much else made a difference in any direct way?

What is needed?  We don&#039;t know since we don&#039;t know the object of that verb &quot;need&quot; -- needed FOR WHAT?  That&#039;s what we very much don&#039;t know.  

Will&#039;s suggestions are fine things, tho&#039; they seem to me to tend toward imagining the future in the image of current fascination with internet learning, within our own little bailiwick, and i use that old word intentionally, of authority and shared vocabulary.  There is nothing really new in Will&#039;s list.  The question is, do we think &quot;Our kids&#039; futures will require them to be:&quot; -- &quot;require them to be&quot;?  What seems to me a goal to aspire toward, and to equip our children and grandchildren with, is understanding, discipline, and desire to make &quot;whatever happens&quot; a thing to meet and shape into human community and human understanding. 

And that&#039;s what i like in Will&#039;s final thing that the future will require (a nonsense there, of course, for there is no &quot;future&quot; at all, it&#039;s a projection of our hopes, fears, and pretends)our children to be is: &quot;Editors of information -- something we should have been teaching them all along but is even more imporatant now.&quot;  Yes, indeed, for to be an &quot;Editor&quot; is to shape what happens as you live through it and follow it, to make of it human meaning, and meaning to offer up to break and share with others, making communities of undestanding out of good editing.  

Much in Will&#039;s list, Networked, More Collaborative, More Globally Aware, (Why Less dependent on paper as anything substantial?), More active, etc., seems to me to be function of teaching our students to learn in a way of editing -- i.e., the editor takes responsibility for the publishing of whatever is learned in the understanding and in the action of the student&#039;s life -- the responsibility is that of the student, and that is what we are to not just teach, but also exemplify.  The notion that the internet world is swarmy with gee-whiz whatever you want information is something to find a way to teach otherwise.  Information is, indeed, power -- but it can be very ignorant, very small, very dangerous power.  

Our students, and we, need a community of critical editorial voice -- some would call that an ethical voice. Most, if not all, of Will&#039;s other proposals assume that sort of voice.  How, then, do we find ethical and community responsibility as the editorial dimension of internet learning, Web 2.0 or any other?  

It seems to me Will worked his way through the list to the nub of the challenge, and the fun.  

Cheers -- Fionn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  The huge number of comments in all their variety suggest that this question, and Will&#8217;s attempt to answer it in a provisional way, pushes a red-alert button in us all.  We all, i suspect, have experiences when just such a question, and a ready answer, was visited upon us when we were younger. The traditional notion is that kids don&#8217;t know anything til they grow up and have kids of their own and then they discover how smart, surprisingly, their parents were!  That seems to me much going on in the response to this blog.  And it is certainly part of my own knee-jerk response to the blog.</p>
<p>And, of course, we&#8217;ve no clue really what &#8220;Our Kids&#8217; Futures&#8221; will be &#8212; and for me, i&#8217;m thinking about my grandchild, 1 year old a month ago.  He&#8217;s now playing on a laptop i gave to his father when he was travelling in Southeast Asia a few years ago, while his father works at home on a new Mac doing editing, writing, reviews, etc.<br />
Since my son is now home working, and with a one year old, what would have been central for him to learn?  &#8212; Alas, Home Ec was not a likely choice for him.  And how much else made a difference in any direct way?</p>
<p>What is needed?  We don&#8217;t know since we don&#8217;t know the object of that verb &#8220;need&#8221; &#8212; needed FOR WHAT?  That&#8217;s what we very much don&#8217;t know.  </p>
<p>Will&#8217;s suggestions are fine things, tho&#8217; they seem to me to tend toward imagining the future in the image of current fascination with internet learning, within our own little bailiwick, and i use that old word intentionally, of authority and shared vocabulary.  There is nothing really new in Will&#8217;s list.  The question is, do we think &#8220;Our kids&#8217; futures will require them to be:&#8221; &#8212; &#8220;require them to be&#8221;?  What seems to me a goal to aspire toward, and to equip our children and grandchildren with, is understanding, discipline, and desire to make &#8220;whatever happens&#8221; a thing to meet and shape into human community and human understanding. </p>
<p>And that&#8217;s what i like in Will&#8217;s final thing that the future will require (a nonsense there, of course, for there is no &#8220;future&#8221; at all, it&#8217;s a projection of our hopes, fears, and pretends)our children to be is: &#8220;Editors of information &#8212; something we should have been teaching them all along but is even more imporatant now.&#8221;  Yes, indeed, for to be an &#8220;Editor&#8221; is to shape what happens as you live through it and follow it, to make of it human meaning, and meaning to offer up to break and share with others, making communities of undestanding out of good editing.  </p>
<p>Much in Will&#8217;s list, Networked, More Collaborative, More Globally Aware, (Why Less dependent on paper as anything substantial?), More active, etc., seems to me to be function of teaching our students to learn in a way of editing &#8212; i.e., the editor takes responsibility for the publishing of whatever is learned in the understanding and in the action of the student&#8217;s life &#8212; the responsibility is that of the student, and that is what we are to not just teach, but also exemplify.  The notion that the internet world is swarmy with gee-whiz whatever you want information is something to find a way to teach otherwise.  Information is, indeed, power &#8212; but it can be very ignorant, very small, very dangerous power.  </p>
<p>Our students, and we, need a community of critical editorial voice &#8212; some would call that an ethical voice. Most, if not all, of Will&#8217;s other proposals assume that sort of voice.  How, then, do we find ethical and community responsibility as the editorial dimension of internet learning, Web 2.0 or any other?  </p>
<p>It seems to me Will worked his way through the list to the nub of the challenge, and the fun.  </p>
<p>Cheers &#8212; Fionn</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 03:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about going back to the very basics? Ethics, morals, discipline, parent involvement just to name a few. It seems to me that teachers have a hard enough time as it is just teaching. . . to then be the &#039;fill-in&#039; parent and prepare them for the world educationally/technologically/innovatively/sufficiently?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about going back to the very basics? Ethics, morals, discipline, parent involvement just to name a few. It seems to me that teachers have a hard enough time as it is just teaching. . . to then be the &#8216;fill-in&#8217; parent and prepare them for the world educationally/technologically/innovatively/sufficiently?</p>
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