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	<title>Comments on: Teenagers as &#8220;Teamagers&#8221;&#8230;What do You Think?</title>
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		<title>By: laurenp</title>
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		<dc:creator>laurenp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a teenager I think that this is true that we do think team work as just a way of “doing our business.” I personally think that team work is harder than individual work, but yet more effective. I think if team work were more common in everyday lives, then things would be better. A lot of times in my classes our assignments are assigned as groups not individuals and I think that teachers today see that this is the way we know how to do things and that it is part of our business</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a teenager I think that this is true that we do think team work as just a way of “doing our business.” I personally think that team work is harder than individual work, but yet more effective. I think if team work were more common in everyday lives, then things would be better. A lot of times in my classes our assignments are assigned as groups not individuals and I think that teachers today see that this is the way we know how to do things and that it is part of our business</p>
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		<title>By: Carleton Lyon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carleton Lyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Collaboration is important and evident in the schools where I work. Many students, though, due to classroom management deficits, are able to fade into the wood work and become invisible in the group. One way I have seen effective teachers handle this is to work in pairs first. It&#039;s difficult to get lost in a pair, both students are forced to contribute, and there is evidence of each individual&#039;s work. After following this model the teacher phases in the team concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Collaboration is important and evident in the schools where I work. Many students, though, due to classroom management deficits, are able to fade into the wood work and become invisible in the group. One way I have seen effective teachers handle this is to work in pairs first. It&#8217;s difficult to get lost in a pair, both students are forced to contribute, and there is evidence of each individual&#8217;s work. After following this model the teacher phases in the team concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kieran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Ransom, the person cited in the opening post, is saying that collaboration is the &#039;default&#039; when he claims that teenagers are &#039;teamagers&#039;. A development, I suppose of the older (and equally faulty, IMO) &#039;digital natives / immigrants&#039; idea.

As such, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s an &#039;extreme position&#039;, nor do I think it&#039;s evidence that I don&#039;t understand changes in the way technology is impacting upon education. If I was being bigheaded, I might take it as evidence that I had actually looked beyond the Web 2 hype. But, hey, thanks for the rant. Really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Ransom, the person cited in the opening post, is saying that collaboration is the &#8216;default&#8217; when he claims that teenagers are &#8216;teamagers&#8217;. A development, I suppose of the older (and equally faulty, IMO) &#8216;digital natives / immigrants&#8217; idea.</p>
<p>As such, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s an &#8216;extreme position&#8217;, nor do I think it&#8217;s evidence that I don&#8217;t understand changes in the way technology is impacting upon education. If I was being bigheaded, I might take it as evidence that I had actually looked beyond the Web 2 hype. But, hey, thanks for the rant. Really.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Ransom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Ransom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is saying that collaboration is the &quot;appropriate response for every challenge&quot; - the &quot;holy grail&quot; for every task? Your thought about choosing the right tool to support the learning goals is spot on and as one approaches adulthood being able to choose a learning approach that is best suited to one&#039;s learning style and the task at hand. There are many jobs that may not require a collaborative approach. But that is changing in many instances today. What would you do if you were asked to complete a complex task that is outside of your area of expertise (knowledge, skills, background...) and which could really benefit from consultation with others to achieve the best final product? Just say, &quot;Well, I don&#039;t like working with others. I&#039;ll slog through it on my own and hope for the best.&quot;?

There is no reason to take an extreme position here to support your comments. I am always amazed when folks defend what they do not really understand by taking such extreme positions. I guess it comes out of ignorance. For example, the Internet is bad and should not be used because of all of the bad stuff kids can access. They will only play games and chat. The best information is found in books. The Internet should not be used in research. Computer (and calculators) are making kids dumb because they no longer have to think. Cooperative learning is a waste of time because all kids do is chat and don&#039;t do any work or learn anything.... All of these extreme positions are usually held by folks who really don&#039;t understand the underlying issues, and yes, research... all that well.

But I would certainly agree that despite the research on teaching and learning, a well-grounded, knowledgeable and experienced teacher is still required to choose pedagogies and strategies that can produce the best outcomes for all students in a given culture - not necessarily the ones that worked best for them when they were in school - which is too often the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is saying that collaboration is the &#8220;appropriate response for every challenge&#8221; &#8211; the &#8220;holy grail&#8221; for every task? Your thought about choosing the right tool to support the learning goals is spot on and as one approaches adulthood being able to choose a learning approach that is best suited to one&#8217;s learning style and the task at hand. There are many jobs that may not require a collaborative approach. But that is changing in many instances today. What would you do if you were asked to complete a complex task that is outside of your area of expertise (knowledge, skills, background&#8230;) and which could really benefit from consultation with others to achieve the best final product? Just say, &#8220;Well, I don&#8217;t like working with others. I&#8217;ll slog through it on my own and hope for the best.&#8221;?</p>
<p>There is no reason to take an extreme position here to support your comments. I am always amazed when folks defend what they do not really understand by taking such extreme positions. I guess it comes out of ignorance. For example, the Internet is bad and should not be used because of all of the bad stuff kids can access. They will only play games and chat. The best information is found in books. The Internet should not be used in research. Computer (and calculators) are making kids dumb because they no longer have to think. Cooperative learning is a waste of time because all kids do is chat and don&#8217;t do any work or learn anything&#8230;. All of these extreme positions are usually held by folks who really don&#8217;t understand the underlying issues, and yes, research&#8230; all that well.</p>
<p>But I would certainly agree that despite the research on teaching and learning, a well-grounded, knowledgeable and experienced teacher is still required to choose pedagogies and strategies that can produce the best outcomes for all students in a given culture &#8211; not necessarily the ones that worked best for them when they were in school &#8211; which is too often the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kieran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 03:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The original &#039;research&#039; is nonsense; kids don&#039;t collaborate, they chat. They&#039;re no better at it than kids were 30 years ago; they just have more ways to do it. And adults, in my experience, really only collaborate when they are told to or when they are very, very motivated to do so, or when the job absolutely requires collaboration. I don&#039;t collaborate much. For what I need to do, I can usually do it better and more quickly myself.

As such, we need to get over the idea that collaboration is the holy grail. It is ONE mode of working, and often not a very useful one. The fact that we now have access to very sexy collaborative tools does not logically mean that collaboration is the appropriate response to every challenge; we&#039;re letting the nature of the tools dictate the nature of the work.

Surely the ultimate aim should be for students to decide whether a certain task and (to a lesser extent) their own preference demands a group-based or individual approach, and then to source the best tools to facilitate that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original &#8216;research&#8217; is nonsense; kids don&#8217;t collaborate, they chat. They&#8217;re no better at it than kids were 30 years ago; they just have more ways to do it. And adults, in my experience, really only collaborate when they are told to or when they are very, very motivated to do so, or when the job absolutely requires collaboration. I don&#8217;t collaborate much. For what I need to do, I can usually do it better and more quickly myself.</p>
<p>As such, we need to get over the idea that collaboration is the holy grail. It is ONE mode of working, and often not a very useful one. The fact that we now have access to very sexy collaborative tools does not logically mean that collaboration is the appropriate response to every challenge; we&#8217;re letting the nature of the tools dictate the nature of the work.</p>
<p>Surely the ultimate aim should be for students to decide whether a certain task and (to a lesser extent) their own preference demands a group-based or individual approach, and then to source the best tools to facilitate that?</p>
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		<title>By: anthony1sbcglobal.875.net</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i totally agree, everybody at my school trys hard to work together at, and out of school...  some of the guys however act like idiots and just wont cooporate with us, but we make it work...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i totally agree, everybody at my school trys hard to work together at, and out of school&#8230;  some of the guys however act like idiots and just wont cooporate with us, but we make it work&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: anthony1sbcglobal.875.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>anthony1sbcglobal.875.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi people, i believe that getting students involved in activities together is a good thing to do, they may not realize that they are learning if it&#039;s fun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi people, i believe that getting students involved in activities together is a good thing to do, they may not realize that they are learning if it&#8217;s fun</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Ransom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Ransom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you and I know what you describe if too often the rule than it is the exception. The same goes in teacher education programs. Often only 1 class is devoted to such a strategic learning structure (also true for differentiation problem-based learning, literature circles, and the like)... in no way a proper equipping. At best, preservice teachers come away with being able to describe cooperative learning in vague generalities. And, the likelihood that they would experience effective implementation of such strategies during student teaching is also slim, as you point out. A sad reality that we MUST address somehow. Ahhh..., the more we change, the more we stay the same in some respects. This makes the need for new learning networks and communities all that more critical!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you and I know what you describe if too often the rule than it is the exception. The same goes in teacher education programs. Often only 1 class is devoted to such a strategic learning structure (also true for differentiation problem-based learning, literature circles, and the like)&#8230; in no way a proper equipping. At best, preservice teachers come away with being able to describe cooperative learning in vague generalities. And, the likelihood that they would experience effective implementation of such strategies during student teaching is also slim, as you point out. A sad reality that we MUST address somehow. Ahhh&#8230;, the more we change, the more we stay the same in some respects. This makes the need for new learning networks and communities all that more critical!</p>
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		<title>By: Angie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, that&#039;s my point.  When I was teaching, I often heard of &quot;strategies&quot; to group students, including using what they were wearing.  The truth is, it&#039;s much easier for teachers to group students this way superficially than to look at students&#039; levels of ability and/or strengths and weaknesses.  In my 13 years in the classroom, I don&#039;t remember one professional development experience that gave me tools do grouping/cooperative learning right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, that&#8217;s my point.  When I was teaching, I often heard of &#8220;strategies&#8221; to group students, including using what they were wearing.  The truth is, it&#8217;s much easier for teachers to group students this way superficially than to look at students&#8217; levels of ability and/or strengths and weaknesses.  In my 13 years in the classroom, I don&#8217;t remember one professional development experience that gave me tools do grouping/cooperative learning right.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Ransom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Ransom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angie, I implore you to find any educational research that supports your &quot;everyone wearing brown shoelaces&quot; cooperative learning strategy and reduces that theory of learning to this one structure that you describe. The work of Johnson &amp; Johnson and Robert Slavin is much more complex than that. That&#039;s the problem - most practitioners are insufficiently trained to successfully employ the strategies in the first place. However, I really agree that most of the time our process of &quot;doing school&quot; does not mirror reality outside of school and does not prepare students for that reality. We spend more time helping students be successful &quot;at school&quot; then we do preparing them for success &quot;after school&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angie, I implore you to find any educational research that supports your &#8220;everyone wearing brown shoelaces&#8221; cooperative learning strategy and reduces that theory of learning to this one structure that you describe. The work of Johnson &amp; Johnson and Robert Slavin is much more complex than that. That&#8217;s the problem &#8211; most practitioners are insufficiently trained to successfully employ the strategies in the first place. However, I really agree that most of the time our process of &#8220;doing school&#8221; does not mirror reality outside of school and does not prepare students for that reality. We spend more time helping students be successful &#8220;at school&#8221; then we do preparing them for success &#8220;after school&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Angie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The collaboration we&#039;re trying to create in schools is manufactured to work in a school system that doesn&#039;t parallel real life.  In my job I often collaborate, but often I don&#039;t.  I learned when I needed to work with others and when I didn&#039;t.  I learned who to turn to for what skill and who to not trust to get the work done.  None of this was taught in school; I learned from experience.  In my classroom, when giving the students opportunity to work in groups or not, many would turn to their friends (those they trusted), but some preferred to do it on their own.  Sometimes in my job I am required to work with others, but it&#039;s because we have a common goal and skills needed to make the work successful.  If we use those parameters to set up groups in school instead of &quot;everyone wearing brown shoelaces,&quot; maybe it would be more successful.  To see what grouping/collaboration should look like check out the Ideo video from Nightline: http://www.ideo.com/media/nightline.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The collaboration we&#8217;re trying to create in schools is manufactured to work in a school system that doesn&#8217;t parallel real life.  In my job I often collaborate, but often I don&#8217;t.  I learned when I needed to work with others and when I didn&#8217;t.  I learned who to turn to for what skill and who to not trust to get the work done.  None of this was taught in school; I learned from experience.  In my classroom, when giving the students opportunity to work in groups or not, many would turn to their friends (those they trusted), but some preferred to do it on their own.  Sometimes in my job I am required to work with others, but it&#8217;s because we have a common goal and skills needed to make the work successful.  If we use those parameters to set up groups in school instead of &#8220;everyone wearing brown shoelaces,&#8221; maybe it would be more successful.  To see what grouping/collaboration should look like check out the Ideo video from Nightline: <a href="http://www.ideo.com/media/nightline.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.ideo.com/media/nightline.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ben W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve found that teenagers may be excellent at collaborating outside of school, but in school they&#039;ve been pushed toward working as independent individuals. The entire school system bases success on individual grades based on individual work. Students, even when put into &quot;collaborative&quot; groups, often don&#039;t trust their grade to other group members. Basically: The current system promotes individualism over communal effort.

I wrote more extensively on my experiences in my classroom with collaboration vs. individualism in a blog post from last month: &lt;a href=&quot;http://sustainablydigital.edublogs.org/2008/03/03/learned-selfishness/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Learned Selfishness&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve found that teenagers may be excellent at collaborating outside of school, but in school they&#8217;ve been pushed toward working as independent individuals. The entire school system bases success on individual grades based on individual work. Students, even when put into &#8220;collaborative&#8221; groups, often don&#8217;t trust their grade to other group members. Basically: The current system promotes individualism over communal effort.</p>
<p>I wrote more extensively on my experiences in my classroom with collaboration vs. individualism in a blog post from last month: <a href="http://sustainablydigital.edublogs.org/2008/03/03/learned-selfishness/" rel="nofollow">Learned Selfishness</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 09:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really thoughtful reply, Michael. Thanks. I too wonder about how teachers can demonstrate true collaboration in their own practice, and agree that there is a certain amount of courage to take on the transparency of that work that&#039;s needed to do it well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really thoughtful reply, Michael. Thanks. I too wonder about how teachers can demonstrate true collaboration in their own practice, and agree that there is a certain amount of courage to take on the transparency of that work that&#8217;s needed to do it well.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 09:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment, Charlie. I wonder though if this is collaboration or more coordination. I think they have the means to collaborate, but I wonder whether they have the skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, Charlie. I wonder though if this is collaboration or more coordination. I think they have the means to collaborate, but I wonder whether they have the skills.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 05:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is becoming an interesting thread as it is clear many, and I would include myself in this group, have tried for years to get kids to cooperate, collaborate, group, share, etc. and have come up short.  The short is that kids don&#039;t know how, or why, or to what end the collective effort should be targeted and then all those other social/evolutionairy instincts kick in and you have the few doing the much and the many learning the least, or something like that.  It&#039;s not what you hope for and it can be messy to grade and then to justify that grade and so on.  

I have worked mostly with teachers and on my own habits the past six years to develop professional collaborative communities within academic and often across academic departments.  It takes years to establish a culture, a set of community agreements, an array of protocols, and a purpose for which to maintain a collaborative community. (If you&#039;ve ever worked in a CFG, you know what I&#039;m talking about.) It also requires no small amount of  professional courage because real collaboration means revealing oneself to one&#039;s peers.  It requires a willingness toward self-examination, and toward the scrutiny, and criticism, and, ouch, change.  The application of this into and out of the classroom also requires time and practice.  What teens are doing today is a combination of revealing themselves to just about everyone in the world but in ways that are often (and I hope we can agree on this) by means of a cloak they sometimes create by the very nature of the annonimity of the medium.  This is not collaboration, or cooperation in the way we need it applied in a learning environment.  To be sure, it is a kind of foundation, an infrastructure on which we can build.  

If the process of collaboration scares teachers, it is no less difficult for students.  Still, the skill needs definition.  It is not at all what cooperative learning tried to be and it usually has nothing to do with roles fulfilled within group work scenarios.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is becoming an interesting thread as it is clear many, and I would include myself in this group, have tried for years to get kids to cooperate, collaborate, group, share, etc. and have come up short.  The short is that kids don&#8217;t know how, or why, or to what end the collective effort should be targeted and then all those other social/evolutionairy instincts kick in and you have the few doing the much and the many learning the least, or something like that.  It&#8217;s not what you hope for and it can be messy to grade and then to justify that grade and so on.  </p>
<p>I have worked mostly with teachers and on my own habits the past six years to develop professional collaborative communities within academic and often across academic departments.  It takes years to establish a culture, a set of community agreements, an array of protocols, and a purpose for which to maintain a collaborative community. (If you&#8217;ve ever worked in a CFG, you know what I&#8217;m talking about.) It also requires no small amount of  professional courage because real collaboration means revealing oneself to one&#8217;s peers.  It requires a willingness toward self-examination, and toward the scrutiny, and criticism, and, ouch, change.  The application of this into and out of the classroom also requires time and practice.  What teens are doing today is a combination of revealing themselves to just about everyone in the world but in ways that are often (and I hope we can agree on this) by means of a cloak they sometimes create by the very nature of the annonimity of the medium.  This is not collaboration, or cooperation in the way we need it applied in a learning environment.  To be sure, it is a kind of foundation, an infrastructure on which we can build.  </p>
<p>If the process of collaboration scares teachers, it is no less difficult for students.  Still, the skill needs definition.  It is not at all what cooperative learning tried to be and it usually has nothing to do with roles fulfilled within group work scenarios.</p>
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