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		<title>By: Monica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 01:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Educators need to be willing to share great ideas but also be acepting of new ways to improve their classrooms. I am an education student but I have learned so much from observing other teachers and the way they run their classrooms. You constantly have to absorb new ideas methods and strategies for learning. This requires being a learner yourself. Some veteran teachers may find it difficult but they too can learn from the rookies! Fresh ideas can never hurt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Educators need to be willing to share great ideas but also be acepting of new ways to improve their classrooms. I am an education student but I have learned so much from observing other teachers and the way they run their classrooms. You constantly have to absorb new ideas methods and strategies for learning. This requires being a learner yourself. Some veteran teachers may find it difficult but they too can learn from the rookies! Fresh ideas can never hurt!</p>
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		<title>By: Rodd Lucier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodd Lucier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 02:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found the perfect metaphor for the oft repeated design of our classrooms and the learning activities that take place within these spaces.  

My neighbours are beginning to adopt new parking strategies, and this "Thinking Outside of the Driveway" parallels how classrooms need to be sites of experimentation: http://thecleversheep.blogspot.com/2008/05/think-outside-of-driveway.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the perfect metaphor for the oft repeated design of our classrooms and the learning activities that take place within these spaces.  </p>
<p>My neighbours are beginning to adopt new parking strategies, and this &#8220;Thinking Outside of the Driveway&#8221; parallels how classrooms need to be sites of experimentation: <a href="http://thecleversheep.blogspot.com/2008/05/think-outside-of-driveway.html" rel="nofollow">http://thecleversheep.blogspot.com/2008/05/think-outside-of-driveway.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: NowlanS</title>
		<link>http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/many-models/#comment-54103</link>
		<dc:creator>NowlanS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 22:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that the outer model of a school is not the real thing that matters with schooling but I tend to think that when one who continues to support the factory model of life continues to support the factory model in every aspect of thinking. There are some places that this statement is false but the real battle in schools is keeping teachers and administrators thinking differently with new and improved ideas. "Factory model" thinking is not good in any aspect. For learning to continue at greater levels the teaching has to evolve and therefore thinking has to evolve. Times change and so should teaching and learning. Teachers should not teach the same thing the same way for years and years. Change needs to be made. Everything evolves, if things do not evolve they eventually die off. If learning does not evolve it will have the same fate as everything else it will die off. This would be a terrible thing, which would most likely not happen because someone would come along and change the way of thinking causing learning to evolve and continue on. This is what everyone needs to do and if everyone did try to change the way of the thinking learning would evolve to be very strong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that the outer model of a school is not the real thing that matters with schooling but I tend to think that when one who continues to support the factory model of life continues to support the factory model in every aspect of thinking. There are some places that this statement is false but the real battle in schools is keeping teachers and administrators thinking differently with new and improved ideas. &#8220;Factory model&#8221; thinking is not good in any aspect. For learning to continue at greater levels the teaching has to evolve and therefore thinking has to evolve. Times change and so should teaching and learning. Teachers should not teach the same thing the same way for years and years. Change needs to be made. Everything evolves, if things do not evolve they eventually die off. If learning does not evolve it will have the same fate as everything else it will die off. This would be a terrible thing, which would most likely not happen because someone would come along and change the way of thinking causing learning to evolve and continue on. This is what everyone needs to do and if everyone did try to change the way of the thinking learning would evolve to be very strong.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Richardson</title>
		<link>http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/many-models/#comment-54079</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 19:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Christian,

Yep, sure was. Really interesting ideas that I'm sure we'll all be watching. I'm hoping to get some more information on what the district is doing and blog more about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Christian,</p>
<p>Yep, sure was. Really interesting ideas that I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll all be watching. I&#8217;m hoping to get some more information on what the district is doing and blog more about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Long</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 01:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will -- 

I'm only guessing here, but I'm assuming that the school you mentioned above re: "DaVinci and Einstein spaces"  was designed by my school design colleagues/friends Randy Fielding and Prakash Nair of FieldingNair (also the co-owners of DesignShare.com, the organization I led -- when I met you -- the last couple of years before heading back to the classroom).  

I've mentioned you to them several times (not too long ago via a Skype link when I sent one of their Edutopia articles), so hopefully you having seen one of their Aussie school projects will spark a professional/personal connection for you/they in the near future.  If you get a chance to do a deep dive into their portfolio, I think you'll really enjoy the kind of work they are doing throughout the US and the world.  

Have I sent you a copy of this book yet?  &lt;i&gt;The Language of School Design: Design Patterns for the 21st Century&lt;/i&gt; (Nair/Fielding)  It is filled with educational/design patterns that helped bring their studios (Einstein, DaVinci, Jamie Oliver, etc) to life over the last few years.  Here's the link so you can take a closer look:  http://www.designshare.com/index.php/language-school-design/order-process  You can either order it directly from Amazon or read a good chunk of it via a free e-book summary version right at that link.

BTW, Randy and Prakash are very closely affiliated with your buddies at Edutopia, so I'm sure your paths will cross without much effort as the months unfold.  Needless to say, it'll be a great meeting of the minds.

Hope your return to the US treats you well.  Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will &#8212; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m only guessing here, but I&#8217;m assuming that the school you mentioned above re: &#8220;DaVinci and Einstein spaces&#8221;  was designed by my school design colleagues/friends Randy Fielding and Prakash Nair of FieldingNair (also the co-owners of DesignShare.com, the organization I led &#8212; when I met you &#8212; the last couple of years before heading back to the classroom).  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve mentioned you to them several times (not too long ago via a Skype link when I sent one of their Edutopia articles), so hopefully you having seen one of their Aussie school projects will spark a professional/personal connection for you/they in the near future.  If you get a chance to do a deep dive into their portfolio, I think you&#8217;ll really enjoy the kind of work they are doing throughout the US and the world.  </p>
<p>Have I sent you a copy of this book yet?  <i>The Language of School Design: Design Patterns for the 21st Century</i> (Nair/Fielding)  It is filled with educational/design patterns that helped bring their studios (Einstein, DaVinci, Jamie Oliver, etc) to life over the last few years.  Here&#8217;s the link so you can take a closer look:  <a href="http://www.designshare.com/index.php/language-school-design/order-process" rel="nofollow">http://www.designshare.com/index.php/language-school-design/order-process</a>  You can either order it directly from Amazon or read a good chunk of it via a free e-book summary version right at that link.</p>
<p>BTW, Randy and Prakash are very closely affiliated with your buddies at Edutopia, so I&#8217;m sure your paths will cross without much effort as the months unfold.  Needless to say, it&#8217;ll be a great meeting of the minds.</p>
<p>Hope your return to the US treats you well.  Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: C. Tschofen</title>
		<link>http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/many-models/#comment-53943</link>
		<dc:creator>C. Tschofen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 20:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does/would the very act of changing or eliminating the "traditional" physical structures of schools, as in the Australian examples, help to loosen the ideas around assessment and learning culture? Or does it only work the other way around? Or is this a simultaneous evolution? 

I also wonder if the word "school" itself limits efforts geared toward change. "School" still seems to be a place, rather than a concept. One thing the "multiple models" scenario asks is whether education in schools -- in geographically united groups, sharing a physical space dedicated specifically to “education/learning” -- is a goal, a necessity, or an option. Using the words "models" and "places" as you do, along with "education" and "learning," helps to open up this discussion, but more vocabulary sure would be helpful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does/would the very act of changing or eliminating the &#8220;traditional&#8221; physical structures of schools, as in the Australian examples, help to loosen the ideas around assessment and learning culture? Or does it only work the other way around? Or is this a simultaneous evolution? </p>
<p>I also wonder if the word &#8220;school&#8221; itself limits efforts geared toward change. &#8220;School&#8221; still seems to be a place, rather than a concept. One thing the &#8220;multiple models&#8221; scenario asks is whether education in schools &#8212; in geographically united groups, sharing a physical space dedicated specifically to “education/learning” &#8212; is a goal, a necessity, or an option. Using the words &#8220;models&#8221; and &#8220;places&#8221; as you do, along with &#8220;education&#8221; and &#8220;learning,&#8221; helps to open up this discussion, but more vocabulary sure would be helpful!</p>
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		<title>By: michelle</title>
		<link>http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/many-models/#comment-53885</link>
		<dc:creator>michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 15:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I poll educators about their thoughts regarding schools of the future, the number one concern is "how will we grade/assess that kind of learning?" All this time I assumed it was the generational issues (digital immigrants, etc.). If GRADES are the obstacle for better methods of learning and preparing students, I'm really worried. Parents even asked questions such as, "How will I know how my child compares with other students his age if grades change?" "Will universities accept students who have had different grading structures-- compared to everyone else?" Can one shift happen without the other?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I poll educators about their thoughts regarding schools of the future, the number one concern is &#8220;how will we grade/assess that kind of learning?&#8221; All this time I assumed it was the generational issues (digital immigrants, etc.). If GRADES are the obstacle for better methods of learning and preparing students, I&#8217;m really worried. Parents even asked questions such as, &#8220;How will I know how my child compares with other students his age if grades change?&#8221; &#8220;Will universities accept students who have had different grading structures&#8211; compared to everyone else?&#8221; Can one shift happen without the other?</p>
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		<title>By: Hayden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 15:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe when GOOGLE gets into running schools we will have a new open classroom design with a new assessment system. If Microsoft can build a school of the future, can we imagine what a Google school of the future would look like? Thanks for the reports from OZ, we toured schools there in April/May 1991 and enjoyed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe when GOOGLE gets into running schools we will have a new open classroom design with a new assessment system. If Microsoft can build a school of the future, can we imagine what a Google school of the future would look like? Thanks for the reports from OZ, we toured schools there in April/May 1991 and enjoyed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Selena Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Selena Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 14:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that I am happy with the factory set-up in schools, but it is not the building's fault when innovative learning is not taking place.  I have seen two classes shoved into a room to play Jeopardy or hear a guest speaker.  I rememeber shoving desks together to fit mobile laptop carts in a tiny classroom.  Unfortunately, too many teacher's minds are in factory mode and it is too comfortable to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that I am happy with the factory set-up in schools, but it is not the building&#8217;s fault when innovative learning is not taking place.  I have seen two classes shoved into a room to play Jeopardy or hear a guest speaker.  I rememeber shoving desks together to fit mobile laptop carts in a tiny classroom.  Unfortunately, too many teacher&#8217;s minds are in factory mode and it is too comfortable to change.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian "cream skimmer" Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian "cream skimmer" Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 14:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some suggestions for how to get your body clock back to norma:

1. Fly home West, rather than East, so you always are gaining time.

2. Treat it like an Mt. Everest ascent and make several one- or two-day stops along the way, e.g., the Maldives, Bahrain, Barcelona, NJ.

Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some suggestions for how to get your body clock back to norma:</p>
<p>1. Fly home West, rather than East, so you always are gaining time.</p>
<p>2. Treat it like an Mt. Everest ascent and make several one- or two-day stops along the way, e.g., the Maldives, Bahrain, Barcelona, NJ.</p>
<p>Brian</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Geoghegan</title>
		<link>http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/many-models/#comment-53869</link>
		<dc:creator>Gina Geoghegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 10:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attended your key note @ Cockle Bay and thought it was great! Thank you for sharing. Just about to start on the journey... Heres hoping that a difference can be made even if only in small steps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attended your key note @ Cockle Bay and thought it was great! Thank you for sharing. Just about to start on the journey&#8230; Heres hoping that a difference can be made even if only in small steps!</p>
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		<title>By: TFT</title>
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		<dc:creator>TFT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 05:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd be interested to know which both these Schools are. We're looking at some restructuring of the way in which our Middle School works, and how we integrate technology into this. We are looking for example Schools to take our Senior Executive to for "inspiration."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be interested to know which both these Schools are. We&#8217;re looking at some restructuring of the way in which our Middle School works, and how we integrate technology into this. We are looking for example Schools to take our Senior Executive to for &#8220;inspiration.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Justine Gannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justine Gannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 03:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Will,

I was wondering if you could let me know which school was the Prep-6 school? My son starts school next year and I am filled with angst and nearly researched out. I know you were speaking in Brisbane, which is where we are. Some external thoughts on school options are always helpful.

Regards
Justine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Will,</p>
<p>I was wondering if you could let me know which school was the Prep-6 school? My son starts school next year and I am filled with angst and nearly researched out. I know you were speaking in Brisbane, which is where we are. Some external thoughts on school options are always helpful.</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Justine</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Richards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 03:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two good stories about the world "down under"- Australia and New Zealand, 

1) Progressive schools utilizing technology for learning.

2) Progressive schools as examples of different models for learning environments.

An educator friend of mine just returned from Australia. I arranged a visit for her to a school through a Twitter friend who teaches there (met her through another Australian Twitter friend). 

Here's what my educator friend who visited Australia wrote me:

"Schools are run by the state, not the towns and are rated according to how difficult an assignment is based on types of students, available resources, degree of isolation, etc. The school is … [new and they are] … anticipating many more students when the new development surrounding the school is completed.  The homes go for about $400,000.  So the students are mostly middle to upper class.  All students wear uniforms including hats as they are "sun safe".  The school is beautiful and has all the bells and whistles.  All classrooms have SmartBoards, computers, etc.  Staff here get 1 point out of a possible 7 (being the most difficult assignments).  
 
Despite being a half a world apart, we all face similar struggles.  The Principal is a proponent of multiage classrooms and made some good arguments for this concept.  The classes are also team taught.  

She took me around to all the classrooms for visits.  Upon hearing I was visiting from America, students asked important questions like if I knew Beyonce and where Chris Rock lives.  Discipline is not a big problem.  In fact, the principal shared that a student could be expelled for doing something really bad like defacing school property.  The staff was very welcoming.
 
A few days later, I visited [a school in another community ]which is a "doggit" (similar to a reservation) for aboriginals.  The school had graffiti on it, barbed wire around it and was in need of repair.  School is mandated for all children in Australia except for aboriginals.  The environment is poverty stricken with little to no employment and alcohol and drug problems ...  Staff at this school would accumulate 7 points - low income, limited resources, isolated area and high crime rate.  It was a very dramatic contrast."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two good stories about the world &#8220;down under&#8221;- Australia and New Zealand, </p>
<p>1) Progressive schools utilizing technology for learning.</p>
<p>2) Progressive schools as examples of different models for learning environments.</p>
<p>An educator friend of mine just returned from Australia. I arranged a visit for her to a school through a Twitter friend who teaches there (met her through another Australian Twitter friend). </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what my educator friend who visited Australia wrote me:</p>
<p>&#8220;Schools are run by the state, not the towns and are rated according to how difficult an assignment is based on types of students, available resources, degree of isolation, etc. The school is … [new and they are] … anticipating many more students when the new development surrounding the school is completed.  The homes go for about $400,000.  So the students are mostly middle to upper class.  All students wear uniforms including hats as they are &#8220;sun safe&#8221;.  The school is beautiful and has all the bells and whistles.  All classrooms have SmartBoards, computers, etc.  Staff here get 1 point out of a possible 7 (being the most difficult assignments).  </p>
<p>Despite being a half a world apart, we all face similar struggles.  The Principal is a proponent of multiage classrooms and made some good arguments for this concept.  The classes are also team taught.  </p>
<p>She took me around to all the classrooms for visits.  Upon hearing I was visiting from America, students asked important questions like if I knew Beyonce and where Chris Rock lives.  Discipline is not a big problem.  In fact, the principal shared that a student could be expelled for doing something really bad like defacing school property.  The staff was very welcoming.</p>
<p>A few days later, I visited [a school in another community ]which is a &#8220;doggit&#8221; (similar to a reservation) for aboriginals.  The school had graffiti on it, barbed wire around it and was in need of repair.  School is mandated for all children in Australia except for aboriginals.  The environment is poverty stricken with little to no employment and alcohol and drug problems &#8230;  Staff at this school would accumulate 7 points - low income, limited resources, isolated area and high crime rate.  It was a very dramatic contrast.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Seibel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy Seibel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 03:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just before I read this post, I read an upcoming chapter by Andy Hargreaves titled The Fourth Way of Change:  Towards an Age of Inspiration and Sustainability (to be published soon in a book titled Change Wars from Solution Tree and released at the &lt;a href="http://www.solution-tree.com/Public/InstituteDetail.aspx?node=&#38;parent=&#38;ProductID=CFN122" rel="nofollow"&gt;Change Wars&lt;/a&gt; conference in October 2008).

I also have an interest in the impact of buildings (&lt;a href="http://blog.tech4learning.ca/2008/05/do-buildings-matter/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Do Buildings Matter?&lt;/a&gt;) on our beliefs about learning and how we visualize learning.

So your post about many models piqued my interest.

Hargreaves suggests that we should not be throwing out the legacies of the First (optimisma and innovation), Second (standardization and market competition), and Third (post-standardization - autocracy, technocracy and effervescence) Ways.  Hargreaves argues for an educational vision that "connects the future to the past", is supported by distributed leadership in a public democracy, where students are partners in the development of change, where parents and community are acknowledged as participants and where teachers are collectively responsible for pedagogical decisions. This he describes as the Fourth Way.

It occurred to me that Hargreaves Fourth Way fits well with your notion of many models.  If we take the best of the past, it can't be just one answer.  But what it will have in common is what's best for all students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just before I read this post, I read an upcoming chapter by Andy Hargreaves titled The Fourth Way of Change:  Towards an Age of Inspiration and Sustainability (to be published soon in a book titled Change Wars from Solution Tree and released at the <a href="http://www.solution-tree.com/Public/InstituteDetail.aspx?node=&amp;parent=&amp;ProductID=CFN122" rel="nofollow">Change Wars</a> conference in October 2008).</p>
<p>I also have an interest in the impact of buildings (<a href="http://blog.tech4learning.ca/2008/05/do-buildings-matter/" rel="nofollow">Do Buildings Matter?</a>) on our beliefs about learning and how we visualize learning.</p>
<p>So your post about many models piqued my interest.</p>
<p>Hargreaves suggests that we should not be throwing out the legacies of the First (optimisma and innovation), Second (standardization and market competition), and Third (post-standardization - autocracy, technocracy and effervescence) Ways.  Hargreaves argues for an educational vision that &#8220;connects the future to the past&#8221;, is supported by distributed leadership in a public democracy, where students are partners in the development of change, where parents and community are acknowledged as participants and where teachers are collectively responsible for pedagogical decisions. This he describes as the Fourth Way.</p>
<p>It occurred to me that Hargreaves Fourth Way fits well with your notion of many models.  If we take the best of the past, it can&#8217;t be just one answer.  But what it will have in common is what&#8217;s best for all students.</p>
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