Comments on: From Access to Information to Access to People http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/ Learning with the Read/Write Web Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:36:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Gary Stager http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/comment-page-1/#comment-44077 Gary Stager Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:49:41 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/#comment-44077 I sure wish that smart people like John Seely Brown would find new terms instead of using existing ones, like "open education," to mean something completely different than the original intent. We don't need more confusion or less precision in our conversations about education. I sure wish that smart people like John Seely Brown would find new terms instead of using existing ones, like “open education,” to mean something completely different than the original intent.

We don’t need more confusion or less precision in our conversations about education.

]]> By: » Getting Plugged in… VanishingPoint http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/comment-page-1/#comment-44064 » Getting Plugged in… VanishingPoint Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:59:54 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/#comment-44064 [...] post comes on the heels of reading Will’s post, From Access to Information to Access to People… aw, [...] [...] post comes on the heels of reading Will’s post, From Access to Information to Access to People… aw, [...]

]]> By: Jim Lerman http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/comment-page-1/#comment-44018 Jim Lerman Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:54:36 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/#comment-44018 Thanks so much for this great cite, Will. Can't wait to dig into it. Just came across something else that readers might be interested in, although the thinkers are from a much more macro (read systemic and policy) point of view. Check out my blog post: http://jlerman.wordpress.com/2008/02/03/what-might-the-future-look-like-for-american-education/ For a link to an online book published by the National Commission for Teaching and America's Future called "Building a 21st Century U.S. Education System." What's in the book, and not in the book, make for some very interesting discussions. Thanks so much for this great cite, Will. Can’t wait to dig into it.
Just came across something else that readers might be interested in, although the thinkers are from a much more macro (read systemic and policy) point of view.
Check out my blog post: http://jlerman.wordpress.com/2008/02/03/what-might-the-future-look-like-for-american-education/

For a link to an online book published by the National Commission for Teaching and America’s Future called
“Building a 21st Century U.S. Education System.” What’s in the book, and not in the book, make for some very interesting discussions.

]]> By: John Connell » Blog Archive » Minds on Fire http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/comment-page-1/#comment-43917 John Connell » Blog Archive » Minds on Fire Sat, 02 Feb 2008 09:27:58 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/#comment-43917 [...] you to Will Richardson for the [...] [...] you to Will Richardson for the [...]

]]> By: Eric Sauve http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/comment-page-1/#comment-43889 Eric Sauve Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:53:18 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/#comment-43889 Great post, Especially this part - "I know that’s still about information, but now it’s becoming more about information in the context of the network." I think one of the concepts that still have to really gain exposure (related to the above) is the area of collaborative filtering. This is essentially the process you describe around social bookmarking. While Facebook has popularized social networking, the same has not been true for Amazon.com and collaborative filtering. From a finding information in the context of a network perspective, the later seems to me very very important. Eric Great post,

Especially this part – “I know that’s still about information, but now it’s becoming more about information in the context of the network.”

I think one of the concepts that still have to really gain exposure (related to the above) is the area of collaborative filtering. This is essentially the process you describe around social bookmarking.

While Facebook has popularized social networking, the same has not been true for Amazon.com and collaborative filtering. From a finding information in the context of a network perspective, the later seems to me very very important.

Eric

]]> By: Ben Wildeboer http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/comment-page-1/#comment-43880 Ben Wildeboer Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:01:17 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/#comment-43880 I think the best we can do sometimes is to actively engage in discussions and experimentations on how tools like del.icio.us, blogs, wikis, etc. are extremely effective learning tools in the hands of a capable teacher. Given the push towards constructivism (at least in my region), I have to believe that the filterers and blockers will relent at some point. However, I think it will require teachers in each district to actively push their administrators in that direction (something I haven't been too good at). Eventually the movement will reach critical mass, but hopefully it'll happen within the next year or two as opposed to the next 20. I think the best we can do sometimes is to actively engage in discussions and experimentations on how tools like del.icio.us, blogs, wikis, etc. are extremely effective learning tools in the hands of a capable teacher. Given the push towards constructivism (at least in my region), I have to believe that the filterers and blockers will relent at some point.

However, I think it will require teachers in each district to actively push their administrators in that direction (something I haven’t been too good at). Eventually the movement will reach critical mass, but hopefully it’ll happen within the next year or two as opposed to the next 20.

]]> By: Britt Watwood http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/comment-page-1/#comment-43876 Britt Watwood Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:09:01 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/#comment-43876 Great point, Ben. I currrently teach a graduate course called Instructional Uses of the Internet, which actively uses delicious. My students who are all K-12 teachers have to go home to get on delicious because their districts block it at school. We are trying to get that lifted but it is a bureaucratic nightmare. I was watching Mike Wesch's video from the ELI conference last night and was reminded again that the old rules of appropriateness are sometimes falling behind the times. Great point, Ben. I currrently teach a graduate course called Instructional Uses of the Internet, which actively uses delicious. My students who are all K-12 teachers have to go home to get on delicious because their districts block it at school. We are trying to get that lifted but it is a bureaucratic nightmare. I was watching Mike Wesch’s video from the ELI conference last night and was reminded again that the old rules of appropriateness are sometimes falling behind the times.

]]> By: Ben Wildeboer http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/comment-page-1/#comment-43855 Ben Wildeboer Fri, 01 Feb 2008 03:58:30 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/#comment-43855 I enjoyed your emphasis on the participatory nature of the network. I've been reading blogs and using other online tools for some time now, but only just recently have I really started making an effort to become a participant. I started my own education blog and vowed to comment on postings that I particularly enjoyed, disagreed with, or raised questions for me. As I've become more of a participant, it's dawned on me more than ever that this is a skill that would be valuable for our students. While being able to effectively use Google or other search engines is a valuable skill, how much more powerful would an effective learning network be? A tool that allows you interact directly (even if it's asynchronous) with experts & professionals blows the lid off Google. What steps can be taken to encourage the school filterers to allow these tools through to our students. Currently del.icio.us is blocked where I teach, as well as pretty much any site that mentions the word "blog" (ok, not quite, but what's the reason behind blocking the edublogs.org domain?). I enjoyed your emphasis on the participatory nature of the network. I’ve been reading blogs and using other online tools for some time now, but only just recently have I really started making an effort to become a participant. I started my own education blog and vowed to comment on postings that I particularly enjoyed, disagreed with, or raised questions for me.

As I’ve become more of a participant, it’s dawned on me more than ever that this is a skill that would be valuable for our students. While being able to effectively use Google or other search engines is a valuable skill, how much more powerful would an effective learning network be? A tool that allows you interact directly (even if it’s asynchronous) with experts & professionals blows the lid off Google.

What steps can be taken to encourage the school filterers to allow these tools through to our students. Currently del.icio.us is blocked where I teach, as well as pretty much any site that mentions the word “blog” (ok, not quite, but what’s the reason behind blocking the edublogs.org domain?).

]]> By: Mike Maloy http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/comment-page-1/#comment-43847 Mike Maloy Fri, 01 Feb 2008 01:19:06 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/#comment-43847 Dani, I've always been the listener. Then, when I took the chance to participate I wanted to add something useful and meaningful, not just parrot what someone else had already said. What I'm starting to realize is that by participating I may not be adding something "new" or spectacular, but I might pull others, with whom I have personal connections, along with me as I learn. I've had some good conversations with those people. I'm learning to share, even if what I have to share isn't all that original. Dani,
I’ve always been the listener. Then, when I took the chance to participate I wanted to add something useful and meaningful, not just parrot what someone else had already said.

What I’m starting to realize is that by participating I may not be adding something “new” or spectacular, but I might pull others, with whom I have personal connections, along with me as I learn. I’ve had some good conversations with those people.

I’m learning to share, even if what I have to share isn’t all that original.

]]> By: Dani Wilkin http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/comment-page-1/#comment-43838 Dani Wilkin Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:41:53 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/#comment-43838 Educators should emphasis the importance of participation. If a student participates in class, in return they understand the material better. There are many students who are just too shy or scared to answer a question in front of their peers. In the past, some of my classes had participation as a grade. This forced students to think about the different topics discussed, instead of just sitting around listening to what everyone else had to say. By being involved in class, I feel it is important for the student and teacher. The teacher will see the student is putting forth the effort to want to understand the material. The incline in technological advances has allowed students to act together on-line through blogs, wikis, skype, and other on-line advances. I feel educators should use devices, such as these, to benefit themselves and their students. Educators should emphasis the importance of participation. If a student participates in class, in return they understand the material better. There are many students who are just too shy or scared to answer a question in front of their peers. In the past, some of my classes had participation as a grade. This forced students to think about the different topics discussed, instead of just sitting around listening to what everyone else had to say. By being involved in class, I feel it is important for the student and teacher. The teacher will see the student is putting forth the effort to want to understand the material.

The incline in technological advances has allowed students to act together on-line through blogs, wikis, skype, and other on-line advances. I feel educators should use devices, such as these, to benefit themselves and their students.

]]> By: Britt Watwood http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/comment-page-1/#comment-43830 Britt Watwood Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:24:09 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/from-access-to-information-to-access-to-people/#comment-43830 I suspect many of us were blogging about this article yesterday (<a href="http://bwatwood.edublogs.org/2008/01/30/passion-based-learning/" title="Britts Blog" rel="nofollow">I did</a>) This ties in directly with the recent work on PLEs - personal learning environments. As the authors note, online social networks are impacting learning. Their example from David Wiley’s Utah State University course where students were required to share their course work through blogs .. and the student work subsequently improved when the greater world started linking to student blogs - this really caught my eye. Leveraging these social tools into our instruction not only increases student facility with the skills they will need in the workplace, but increases the likelihood of the learning shifting from teacher-directed learning to passion-based learning. As you note, it becomes learning undertaken because the student WANTS to learn and be a participating and contributing member of a community. So I second the call to others to check out this article! I suspect many of us were blogging about this article yesterday (I did)

This ties in directly with the recent work on PLEs – personal learning environments. As the authors note, online social networks are impacting learning. Their example from David Wiley’s Utah State University course where students were required to share their course work through blogs .. and the student work subsequently improved when the greater world started linking to student blogs – this really caught my eye.

Leveraging these social tools into our instruction not only increases student facility with the skills they will need in the workplace, but increases the likelihood of the learning shifting from teacher-directed learning to passion-based learning. As you note, it becomes learning undertaken because the student WANTS to learn and be a participating and contributing member of a community.

So I second the call to others to check out this article!

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