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		<title>By: Melanie Holtsman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie Holtsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will,
I know my faculty is atypical, but I was taking for granted this amazing experience by not asking for reflections.  Thanks for pushing my thinking - here&#039;s my response  http://tinyurl.com/36f7ry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will,<br />
I know my faculty is atypical, but I was taking for granted this amazing experience by not asking for reflections.  Thanks for pushing my thinking &#8211; here&#8217;s my response  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/36f7ry" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/36f7ry</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Changing ourselves &#171; TIC&#8217;d off with the Status Quo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Changing Ourselves and Our Culture Thinking About Learning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 01:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Changing Cultures Thinking About Learning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Changing Cultures Thinking About Learning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Danielle Kiefner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danielle Kiefner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the same big question.  While it is great to have educators across the world on board to reshape the culture of schools and learning, I wonder how much can be done without the support of a larger group of people.  We need to make these issues recognized not only by teachers, but by parents, administrators, students, and the rest of society.  We need to be active in the community, participating in politics, present in the media, and working to have our voices heard.  We need to transform those people who say education is important (nearly everyone) into people who act as if education is important.  To do that, we need to find out why they aren’t acting.  Maybe they do not know the inadequacies of the system, and they need educated themselves.  How many people are there who will talk about the importance of education to turn around and vote no on a referendum giving schools more funding?  How can we convince people that lecturing may not be the best way to help students learn?  They were taught by lecture, and they turned out just fine.  We need to convey to people that the goal of education is not to be just fine.  The goal of education should be to continuously improve in order to benefit learners to the greatest extent, not just to the extent that is necessary for life in the workforce.  Is the status quo so strong that something as important as education can be left behind while the rest of the world has moved on into the future?  As educators, we have the responsibility to convince the rest of the world to help us push education into the 21st century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the same big question.  While it is great to have educators across the world on board to reshape the culture of schools and learning, I wonder how much can be done without the support of a larger group of people.  We need to make these issues recognized not only by teachers, but by parents, administrators, students, and the rest of society.  We need to be active in the community, participating in politics, present in the media, and working to have our voices heard.  We need to transform those people who say education is important (nearly everyone) into people who act as if education is important.  To do that, we need to find out why they aren’t acting.  Maybe they do not know the inadequacies of the system, and they need educated themselves.  How many people are there who will talk about the importance of education to turn around and vote no on a referendum giving schools more funding?  How can we convince people that lecturing may not be the best way to help students learn?  They were taught by lecture, and they turned out just fine.  We need to convey to people that the goal of education is not to be just fine.  The goal of education should be to continuously improve in order to benefit learners to the greatest extent, not just to the extent that is necessary for life in the workforce.  Is the status quo so strong that something as important as education can be left behind while the rest of the world has moved on into the future?  As educators, we have the responsibility to convince the rest of the world to help us push education into the 21st century.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill MacKenize</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill MacKenize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was fortunate to have an opportunity to work with Will at a conference here in Toronto recently. I asked him how as a system administrator I can support the adoption and integration of Web 2.0 tools and thinking. What I think I heard you emphasize, Will, was that teachers need to do the work themselves independent of school boards using the tools available to them wherever they find them.
 
I would suggest that school boards and provincial leaders have an important role to play by fostering innovation and by modeling the use of the technology.  While school boards can never keep up with early adopters we can bring up the rear i.e. the resisters by making the tools available and by incorporating their use into the work environment. Superintendent awareness of the potential of these tools is critical. Innovative projects using 2.0 tools are being denied funding in school boards due to ignorance as much as resistance.
Your presentation this week to Ministry of Education staff here in Ontario was a wonderful opportunity to help leaders gain a better understanding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was fortunate to have an opportunity to work with Will at a conference here in Toronto recently. I asked him how as a system administrator I can support the adoption and integration of Web 2.0 tools and thinking. What I think I heard you emphasize, Will, was that teachers need to do the work themselves independent of school boards using the tools available to them wherever they find them.</p>
<p>I would suggest that school boards and provincial leaders have an important role to play by fostering innovation and by modeling the use of the technology.  While school boards can never keep up with early adopters we can bring up the rear i.e. the resisters by making the tools available and by incorporating their use into the work environment. Superintendent awareness of the potential of these tools is critical. Innovative projects using 2.0 tools are being denied funding in school boards due to ignorance as much as resistance.<br />
Your presentation this week to Ministry of Education staff here in Ontario was a wonderful opportunity to help leaders gain a better understanding.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Coming back home Not So Distant Future</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Coming back home Not So Distant Future</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Thinking Stick &#187; Blog Archive &#187; When we only see 1/3</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Thinking Stick &#187; Blog Archive &#187; When we only see 1/3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Will Richardson asks these questions: …how do we help schools and districts to begin to reshape their culture around learning in more collaborative, connected environments? How do we get to the point where we’re not just seeing individual teachers and classrooms make the shift, but where we are seeing schools as a whole beginning to shift as well? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Fitzgerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Fitzgerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, Will,

I actually put it together as a mini-post over on the OpenAcademic blog: http://openacademic.org/news/cast-down-your-bucket

The relevant links are:
OpenCalais: http://opencalais.mashery.com

OpenID: http://openid.net/

The announcement re Google, Microsoft, IBM, VeriSign, Yahoo Joining the OpenID Foundation board: http://www.campustechnology.com/articles/58342

Cheers,

Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Will,</p>
<p>I actually put it together as a mini-post over on the OpenAcademic blog: <a href="http://openacademic.org/news/cast-down-your-bucket" rel="nofollow">http://openacademic.org/news/cast-down-your-bucket</a></p>
<p>The relevant links are:<br />
OpenCalais: <a href="http://opencalais.mashery.com" rel="nofollow">http://opencalais.mashery.com</a></p>
<p>OpenID: <a href="http://openid.net/" rel="nofollow">http://openid.net/</a></p>
<p>The announcement re Google, Microsoft, IBM, VeriSign, Yahoo Joining the OpenID Foundation board: <a href="http://www.campustechnology.com/articles/58342" rel="nofollow">http://www.campustechnology.com/articles/58342</a></p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Will Richardson</title>
		<link>http://weblogg-ed.com/2008/changing-ourselves-changing-our-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-45114</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bill...thanks for that really interesting reply. You&#039;re providing some really interesting context for these shifts. Just fyi, if you add the links, I&#039;ll have to moderate but it won&#039;t get lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bill&#8230;thanks for that really interesting reply. You&#8217;re providing some really interesting context for these shifts. Just fyi, if you add the links, I&#8217;ll have to moderate but it won&#8217;t get lost.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Fitzgerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Fitzgerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, Will,

RE: &quot;But one thing (again) that has really been sticky from EduConn was the idea that local connections support local culture (as well as a few other things, such as leadership, of course) and vice versa.&quot;

In many ways, this mirrors how the web itself was understood, and developed. Initially, you had large companies creating user silos tied together with an internet connection -- anyone remember Compuserve? Then, people fled these companies and started working on the web, and built sites to connect with &quot;the world&quot; -- Then, people started building web sites to connect with their Neighborhood Association -- sites like Craigslist show the power of micropresences, or sites with an intensely local focus.

I sense the same type of pendulum swing in education -- as people get more accustomed to the presence of the tools, the focus will switch to local use. Not surprisingly, this dovetails with work happening around interoperability fueled by open standards, and a safe secure means of maintaining an identity on the web that has grassroots support, as well as support from some of the major players -- 

For more on the ineroperability/semantic web piece, take a look at OpenCalais. For more on the unified identity, take a look at OpenID. Just this week, Google, Microsoft, IBM, Yahoo!, and Verisign joined the OpenID Federation board.

I&#039;d include links, but I don&#039;t want the comment to get munged by the spam monsters :)

Cheers,

Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Will,</p>
<p>RE: &#8220;But one thing (again) that has really been sticky from EduConn was the idea that local connections support local culture (as well as a few other things, such as leadership, of course) and vice versa.&#8221;</p>
<p>In many ways, this mirrors how the web itself was understood, and developed. Initially, you had large companies creating user silos tied together with an internet connection &#8212; anyone remember Compuserve? Then, people fled these companies and started working on the web, and built sites to connect with &#8220;the world&#8221; &#8212; Then, people started building web sites to connect with their Neighborhood Association &#8212; sites like Craigslist show the power of micropresences, or sites with an intensely local focus.</p>
<p>I sense the same type of pendulum swing in education &#8212; as people get more accustomed to the presence of the tools, the focus will switch to local use. Not surprisingly, this dovetails with work happening around interoperability fueled by open standards, and a safe secure means of maintaining an identity on the web that has grassroots support, as well as support from some of the major players &#8212; </p>
<p>For more on the ineroperability/semantic web piece, take a look at OpenCalais. For more on the unified identity, take a look at OpenID. Just this week, Google, Microsoft, IBM, Yahoo!, and Verisign joined the OpenID Federation board.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d include links, but I don&#8217;t want the comment to get munged by the spam monsters <img src='http://weblogg-ed.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Britt Watwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Britt Watwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was as impressed with the number and power of the comments Will&#039;s post generated as I was by the thoughts Will himself conveyed (and Sheryl&#039;s summary was topnotch as well!).  Back in &#039;98, Al Seagren and I published &quot;Transforming Leaders, Cultures and Colleges&quot; in &lt;em&gt;Academic Leadership&lt;/em&gt; magazine.  We were talking about chair leadership, but one of our quotes resonates with Will&#039;s comments:

&quot;...while change agent may be the desired role of chairs, an underlying culture must exist that permits chairs to act in transformational ways.&quot;

I would suggest that the same is true regarding digital
teaching and learning.  Mahatma Gandhi &quot;We must live the change.&quot;  I echo Brian&#039;s call to think globally (or flatly, as the case may be) but act locally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was as impressed with the number and power of the comments Will&#8217;s post generated as I was by the thoughts Will himself conveyed (and Sheryl&#8217;s summary was topnotch as well!).  Back in &#8217;98, Al Seagren and I published &#8220;Transforming Leaders, Cultures and Colleges&#8221; in <em>Academic Leadership</em> magazine.  We were talking about chair leadership, but one of our quotes resonates with Will&#8217;s comments:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;while change agent may be the desired role of chairs, an underlying culture must exist that permits chairs to act in transformational ways.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would suggest that the same is true regarding digital<br />
teaching and learning.  Mahatma Gandhi &#8220;We must live the change.&#8221;  I echo Brian&#8217;s call to think globally (or flatly, as the case may be) but act locally.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will,

Thanks for articulating so well much of what I felt as I left SLA a few weeks back.  I knew going there that I would leave recharged and ready to bring new ideas back with me, and that&#039;s not to say I did not.  Rather, what I left with is similar to what you described as &quot;teachers are connecting more and more outside their spaces but, it appears at least, not so much inside their own districts and communities.&quot;

Reading Justin Medved and Dennis Harter, who are guest blogging at Dangerously Irrelevant this week, also makes clear that what is not occurring at the rate we need are the conversations like those that took place at EduCon.  Focused discussion on pedagogy and method rather than on tools and technology.  

As an administrator, the most success we have had with our staff in adopting these pedagogies is when we find a way to make them personally meaningful to them--something you often speak of.  But we still face the same struggle: when the classroom doors close, does the change take shape?  Without connecting to other educators, locally or globally, there is no &quot;support group&quot; for teachers and administrators to examine either success or failure.

Thanks for this think aloud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will,</p>
<p>Thanks for articulating so well much of what I felt as I left SLA a few weeks back.  I knew going there that I would leave recharged and ready to bring new ideas back with me, and that&#8217;s not to say I did not.  Rather, what I left with is similar to what you described as &#8220;teachers are connecting more and more outside their spaces but, it appears at least, not so much inside their own districts and communities.&#8221;</p>
<p>Reading Justin Medved and Dennis Harter, who are guest blogging at Dangerously Irrelevant this week, also makes clear that what is not occurring at the rate we need are the conversations like those that took place at EduCon.  Focused discussion on pedagogy and method rather than on tools and technology.  </p>
<p>As an administrator, the most success we have had with our staff in adopting these pedagogies is when we find a way to make them personally meaningful to them&#8211;something you often speak of.  But we still face the same struggle: when the classroom doors close, does the change take shape?  Without connecting to other educators, locally or globally, there is no &#8220;support group&#8221; for teachers and administrators to examine either success or failure.</p>
<p>Thanks for this think aloud.</p>
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