Comments on: Five Ways to Mark up the Web/Some Thoughts on Tools http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/ Learning with the Read/Write Web Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:36:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Caroline http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-19831 Caroline Sat, 28 Apr 2007 17:08:06 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/#comment-19831 Incidentally, I found this entry on your blog via a sticki on http://shiftspace.org Incidentally, I found this entry on your blog via a sticki on http://shiftspace.org

]]> By: Caroline http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-19830 Caroline Sat, 28 Apr 2007 17:05:49 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/#comment-19830 I have a little writeup of why I like ShiftSpace and how I'm hoping to use Stickis for a project at work at http://labyrinths.wordpress.com/2007/04/27/annotating-the-web-with-stickis/ I have a little writeup of why I like ShiftSpace and how I’m hoping to use Stickis for a project at work at http://labyrinths.wordpress.com/2007/04/27/annotating-the-web-with-stickis/

]]> By: Jay Hurvitz http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-18538 Jay Hurvitz Fri, 13 Apr 2007 07:44:33 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/#comment-18538 Ordinarily I’d write that I prefer the benefits of open, networked, learning tools over constricted, group-based, learning. Students who collect materials related to their studies and post them to blogs, to their del.icio.us accounts and the like, can, but aren’t required, to benefit from the similar activities of other students. They can be participative learners, but they don’t have to belong to any particular group (and be fearful that if they don’t contribute an interesting comment somewhere they won’t get a good grade). In some cases, however, relatively small, predefined, groups can have definite benefits. If a class wants to carry on a discussion around a particular article, for instance, though input from outsiders can be helpful, keeping things internal may often be preferable. For a discussion of this sort, Diigo can be a wonderful tool. Instead of just commenting on the article under discussion (“I liked it”, and similar highly perceptive remarks), students can highlight the particular passages they found important and comment on those passages. And of course others can respond directly to those same passages. The marginalia that in this way develops around group reading and commenting of this sort can be much more inducive toward learning than a detached discussion. The “groups” function of Diigo allows us to run a “closed” discussion of this sort. So far I’ve seen it happen only to a very limited degree, but there’s still hope. Ordinarily I’d write that I prefer the benefits of open, networked, learning tools over constricted, group-based, learning. Students who collect materials related to their studies and post them to blogs, to their del.icio.us accounts and the like, can, but aren’t required, to benefit from the similar activities of other students. They can be participative learners, but they don’t have to belong to any particular group (and be fearful that if they don’t contribute an interesting comment somewhere they won’t get a good grade). In some cases, however, relatively small, predefined, groups can have definite benefits. If a class wants to carry on a discussion around a particular article, for instance, though input from outsiders can be helpful, keeping things internal may often be preferable.

For a discussion of this sort, Diigo can be a wonderful tool. Instead of just commenting on the article under discussion (“I liked it”, and similar highly perceptive remarks), students can highlight the particular passages they found important and comment on those passages. And of course others can respond directly to those same passages. The marginalia that in this way develops around group reading and commenting of this sort can be much more inducive toward learning than a detached discussion. The “groups” function of Diigo allows us to run a “closed” discussion of this sort. So far I’ve seen it happen only to a very limited degree, but there’s still hope.

]]> By: Lauren Fee http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-18515 Lauren Fee Fri, 13 Apr 2007 01:45:01 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/#comment-18515 Here is a great video by Clay Burell on creative uses of the highlighting feature in Diigo http://blog109.org/communities/sbowers/archive/2007/03/08/15743.aspx. It demonstrates how you can use the highlighting feature to highlight vocabulary words in context, as well as how to create an online book study guide. Some great educational examples! Here is a great video by Clay Burell on creative uses of the highlighting feature in Diigo http://blog109.org/communities/sbowers/archive/2007/03/08/15743.aspx. It demonstrates how you can use the highlighting feature to highlight vocabulary words in context, as well as how to create an online book study guide. Some great educational examples!

]]> By: Angie http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-18481 Angie Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:02:04 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/#comment-18481 Will: I've used Trailfire and so I like it lots. I'm using it to create "Information Trails" for students to follow on certain topics that are related to classroom studies. I'm trying to incorporate these into the ol' Pathfinders model. Haven't gone too far yet, just a thought. They've added some new features that look promising so for those that haven't visited it for a while you may want to take a second look. I'm just getting into Diigo. Will:
I’ve used Trailfire and so I like it lots. I’m using it to create “Information Trails” for students to follow on certain topics that are related to classroom studies. I’m trying to incorporate these into the ol’ Pathfinders model. Haven’t gone too far yet, just a thought. They’ve added some new features that look promising so for those that haven’t visited it for a while you may want to take a second look. I’m just getting into Diigo.

]]> By: Andrew Pass http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-18471 Andrew Pass Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:57:46 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/#comment-18471 Will, I find your idea about waiting to hear things from your trusted network very intriguing. It makes a lot of sense. How do you think about the development of your network to ensure that the entire network does not get blindsided by being tucked away in some crevice of the Internet somewhere? Will, I find your idea about waiting to hear things from your trusted network very intriguing. It makes a lot of sense. How do you think about the development of your network to ensure that the entire network does not get blindsided by being tucked away in some crevice of the Internet somewhere?

]]> By: Jeff VanDrimmelen http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-18447 Jeff VanDrimmelen Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:33:12 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/#comment-18447 I also did a writeup on trailfire a while back. You can check it out here: http://www.edutechie.com/2007/02/trailfire-created-guided-internet-tours/ I also use Firedoodle fore my tablet PC sometimes: http://www.edutechie.com/2007/03/firedoodle-ink-webes-and-save-for-later/ Right now I am looking for a tool that puts everything together in one place. Pretty much both of these tools together. That would be GREAT! I also did a writeup on trailfire a while back. You can check it out here:

http://www.edutechie.com/2007/02/trailfire-created-guided-internet-tours/

I also use Firedoodle fore my tablet PC sometimes:

http://www.edutechie.com/2007/03/firedoodle-ink-webes-and-save-for-later/

Right now I am looking for a tool that puts everything together in one place. Pretty much both of these tools together. That would be GREAT!

]]> By: Clay Burell http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-18436 Clay Burell Thu, 12 Apr 2007 10:00:10 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/#comment-18436 I use Diigo to leave teacher feedback on student blogs. Why deface their comment sections with teacher-talk? I posted about it here: http://burell.blogspot.com/2007/03/from-red-pen-to-invisible-ink-assessing.html. Have you noticed, too, that Diigo's "groups" function is much better since 2.0, and it now allows "floating annotations"? Good for blog and wiki markup. I use Diigo to leave teacher feedback on student blogs. Why deface their comment sections with teacher-talk? I posted about it here: http://burell.blogspot.com/2007/03/from-red-pen-to-invisible-ink-assessing.html.

Have you noticed, too, that Diigo’s “groups” function is much better since 2.0, and it now allows “floating annotations”? Good for blog and wiki markup.

]]> By: Randy Rodgers http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-18412 Randy Rodgers Thu, 12 Apr 2007 01:27:21 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/#comment-18412 By the way, the presentation was great--the district admins are already lining up to put me to work helping them get started. Thanks! By the way, the presentation was great–the district admins are already lining up to put me to work helping them get started. Thanks!

]]> By: Randy Rodgers http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-18411 Randy Rodgers Thu, 12 Apr 2007 01:26:20 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/#comment-18411 Will, I did a review of Fleck and Trailfire awhile back (http://randyrodgers.edublogs.org/2007/01/16/guided-browsing-tools-fleck-and-trailfire/). The guys at Fleck commented on the post and said they are developing some more tools, including the ability to navigate from one notation to another on a different page (a big advantage of Trailfire). I showed some teachers these tools, and they thought they could be useful to help guide student browsing. For example, a teacher could post a focus question on a page or direct them to a particular part of the page, then the link could take them to the next step. It's not the critical thinking involved in doing one's own searches and sifting through the information, but it certainly would be more efficient, time wise. Tom, why the disdain for Techcrunch? I really appreciate their feed--it has pointed me to some really useful sites. Will,

I did a review of Fleck and Trailfire awhile back (http://randyrodgers.edublogs.org/2007/01/16/guided-browsing-tools-fleck-and-trailfire/). The guys at Fleck commented on the post and said they are developing some more tools, including the ability to navigate from one notation to another on a different page (a big advantage of Trailfire). I showed some teachers these tools, and they thought they could be useful to help guide student browsing. For example, a teacher could post a focus question on a page or direct them to a particular part of the page, then the link could take them to the next step. It’s not the critical thinking involved in doing one’s own searches and sifting through the information, but it certainly would be more efficient, time wise.

Tom, why the disdain for Techcrunch? I really appreciate their feed–it has pointed me to some really useful sites.

]]> By: Kraemer http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-18409 Kraemer Thu, 12 Apr 2007 00:32:29 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/#comment-18409 <a href="http://classroom20.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=649749%3ATopic%3A3158&page=1&commentId=649749%3AComment%3A3423#649749Comment3423" rel="nofollow">Sue R. at Classroom 2.0</a> posted a great way that her students use del.icio.us to do research using a shared account and tagging. I am an avid Diigo fan, and could see myself using her assignment, but with annotations and highlighting along with tagging and bookmarking. Sue R. at Classroom 2.0 posted a great way that her students use del.icio.us to do research using a shared account and tagging. I am an avid Diigo fan, and could see myself using her assignment, but with annotations and highlighting along with tagging and bookmarking.

]]> By: Scott McLeod http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-18401 Scott McLeod Wed, 11 Apr 2007 23:03:49 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/#comment-18401 Will, you mention that there's so much stuff out there. I ran across this via www.edtechroundup.com: http://itredux.com/office-20/database and was just stunned at all of the tools that I've never heard of... Will, you mention that there’s so much stuff out there. I ran across this via http://www.edtechroundup.com:

http://itredux.com/office-20/database

and was just stunned at all of the tools that I’ve never heard of…

]]> By: Nancy http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-18400 Nancy Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:59:19 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/#comment-18400 opps, wrong web link. The link to Jane Hart's e-learning tip of the day is http://janeknight.typepad.com/pick/ opps, wrong web link.
The link to Jane Hart’s e-learning tip of the day is http://janeknight.typepad.com/pick/

]]> By: Nancy http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-18398 Nancy Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:54:06 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/#comment-18398 Thanks Gerry for the idea about Jane Hart's website I took a look at her blog and quickly added it to my rss feed. http://janeknight.typepad.com/pick/2007/04/veotag.html (Great for helping to keep up with all of the technology tools that are out there!) I am also excited to check out and try using Stickis.com ..... thanks Marc! Thanks Gerry for the idea about Jane Hart’s website
I took a look at her blog and quickly added it to my rss feed. http://janeknight.typepad.com/pick/2007/04/veotag.html
(Great for helping to keep up with all of the technology tools that are out there!)
I am also excited to check out and try using Stickis.com ….. thanks Marc!

]]> By: Tim http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/comment-page-1/#comment-18391 Tim Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:48:14 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2007/five-ways-to-mark-up-the-websome-thoughts-on-tools/#comment-18391 I've been digging diigo lately. It's a great tool for student research. With Diigo, you can highlight quotes, facts, and other info from a webpage, and when you add the page to your diigo bookmarks, the info you highlighted gets saved with the bookmark. You can also attach sticky notes, comments, share your bookmarks, etc. It's pretty slick. I've also used these sticky notes to grade/comment on student online work. I’ve been digging diigo lately. It’s a great tool for student research. With Diigo, you can highlight quotes, facts, and other info from a webpage, and when you add the page to your diigo bookmarks, the info you highlighted gets saved with the bookmark. You can also attach sticky notes, comments, share your bookmarks, etc. It’s pretty slick.

I’ve also used these sticky notes to grade/comment on student online work.

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