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		<title>By: Bee</title>
		<link>http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/the-bigger-shiftsdeal-with-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4839</link>
		<dc:creator>Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to the team, Melissa. 

I am from Brazil and I had exactly the same arguments put forward to me. I have been fighting like a lion since 1997 to have ICT included in our school and practice. Way back then we had one computer in the teachers&#039; room and it was not connected. When they added 8 computers to the library, they did not want to connect them for fear the students might get distracted. Students wrote about it and we were eventually connected. I designed the first computer room in 2002, they opened another room for primary school and one more this year! No computer in the classrooms, though, maybe for fear teachers will spend their time consulting their mails or playing games, go and figure.

I was recently invited to take part in an open conference called the future of learning in a networked world. My headmaster called me to his office today and said he gives me permission to leave for 15 days but warned me I will not be paid for them as he sees the trip as an opportunity for me but has no real interest in connecting my kids to the conference and does not see how an event like this may benefit the
school.

He will take a substitute to do some &quot;real&quot; teaching instead as the kids cannot be left on their own and doubts whoever comes will know how to deal with computers. He mentioned he has enough work to do without all this. He admits he has not got the slightest idea of how technology
can help children to learn and qualified my work (blogging, podcast and projects) as superficial and not leading to acquisition of real knowledge.

However, I never say never and do not give up.I started with one disconnected computer and now there are three rooms, + 8 machines in the library, + 8 in the teachers&#039; room and I have been blogging and podcasting. 

Change takes time, but it will not happen by itself. We must keep forcing it to happen through our insistence, blogging about it, showing the good practice and connecting more as we are doing now :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the team, Melissa. </p>
<p>I am from Brazil and I had exactly the same arguments put forward to me. I have been fighting like a lion since 1997 to have ICT included in our school and practice. Way back then we had one computer in the teachers&#8217; room and it was not connected. When they added 8 computers to the library, they did not want to connect them for fear the students might get distracted. Students wrote about it and we were eventually connected. I designed the first computer room in 2002, they opened another room for primary school and one more this year! No computer in the classrooms, though, maybe for fear teachers will spend their time consulting their mails or playing games, go and figure.</p>
<p>I was recently invited to take part in an open conference called the future of learning in a networked world. My headmaster called me to his office today and said he gives me permission to leave for 15 days but warned me I will not be paid for them as he sees the trip as an opportunity for me but has no real interest in connecting my kids to the conference and does not see how an event like this may benefit the<br />
school.</p>
<p>He will take a substitute to do some &#8220;real&#8221; teaching instead as the kids cannot be left on their own and doubts whoever comes will know how to deal with computers. He mentioned he has enough work to do without all this. He admits he has not got the slightest idea of how technology<br />
can help children to learn and qualified my work (blogging, podcast and projects) as superficial and not leading to acquisition of real knowledge.</p>
<p>However, I never say never and do not give up.I started with one disconnected computer and now there are three rooms, + 8 machines in the library, + 8 in the teachers&#8217; room and I have been blogging and podcasting. </p>
<p>Change takes time, but it will not happen by itself. We must keep forcing it to happen through our insistence, blogging about it, showing the good practice and connecting more as we are doing now <img src='http://weblogg-ed.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 19:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(I published this on High Schools New Face Blog as well!  I would love your input!)

My colleague from another division Skyped me at work. In a nutshell, Skyping is talking with someone else with computers instead of a phone. All you need is a connection and a microphone. (I am currently without a phone extension and am sharing a phone with others while our office is under construction.) It was so very cool to talk with her using Skype. She was in a room of 7 administrators, and I helped them with staff development questions, and we got A LOT of work done. We accomplished a great deal in a few short minutes. If not for Skype, we were going to have to set up a phone conference for another time or a meeting or something else that requires more time than I have. AND we did not monopolize the phone that I am sharing with others.


On Thursday, the Skype web site in our district was blocked because it was discovered that some of us have been exploring the world of Skype and its potential in our workplace. How distressing it was as I began to question why this site was being blocked. The first response was that &quot;they&quot; heard that it may slow the network down. When probing for more information from them, they admit there has been no evidence that supports a network slowdown, but since it is summer and fewer are using the network, then the slowdown &quot;might&quot; happen in the fall. 

The second response was that since adults are using Skype, then kids/students might doing it as well. You probably could imagine my face when that was said outloud after spending three wonderful days at High Schools New Face, reading blogs, and having read Will&#039;s book! So, what is wrong with students skyping with other students around the world? Isn&#039;t this the same as the Distance Learning that we are all so used to using now in the 21st Century without the TV screens?

I would love to share with them about what a learned about the ever-expanding walls of the classroom. When talking about blogs, they said that perhaps one computer in each classroom could be designated to blog or skype or wiki or whatever it is that our teachers will want to use when returning in the fall. One computer...

I realize that we must proceed with caution and am anxious to hear how others are moving forward in the world after HSNF. I am on our Technology Planning Committee, so this matter is timely! Thanks for your input!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I published this on High Schools New Face Blog as well!  I would love your input!)</p>
<p>My colleague from another division Skyped me at work. In a nutshell, Skyping is talking with someone else with computers instead of a phone. All you need is a connection and a microphone. (I am currently without a phone extension and am sharing a phone with others while our office is under construction.) It was so very cool to talk with her using Skype. She was in a room of 7 administrators, and I helped them with staff development questions, and we got A LOT of work done. We accomplished a great deal in a few short minutes. If not for Skype, we were going to have to set up a phone conference for another time or a meeting or something else that requires more time than I have. AND we did not monopolize the phone that I am sharing with others.</p>
<p>On Thursday, the Skype web site in our district was blocked because it was discovered that some of us have been exploring the world of Skype and its potential in our workplace. How distressing it was as I began to question why this site was being blocked. The first response was that &#8220;they&#8221; heard that it may slow the network down. When probing for more information from them, they admit there has been no evidence that supports a network slowdown, but since it is summer and fewer are using the network, then the slowdown &#8220;might&#8221; happen in the fall. </p>
<p>The second response was that since adults are using Skype, then kids/students might doing it as well. You probably could imagine my face when that was said outloud after spending three wonderful days at High Schools New Face, reading blogs, and having read Will&#8217;s book! So, what is wrong with students skyping with other students around the world? Isn&#8217;t this the same as the Distance Learning that we are all so used to using now in the 21st Century without the TV screens?</p>
<p>I would love to share with them about what a learned about the ever-expanding walls of the classroom. When talking about blogs, they said that perhaps one computer in each classroom could be designated to blog or skype or wiki or whatever it is that our teachers will want to use when returning in the fall. One computer&#8230;</p>
<p>I realize that we must proceed with caution and am anxious to hear how others are moving forward in the world after HSNF. I am on our Technology Planning Committee, so this matter is timely! Thanks for your input!</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Brumbaugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle Brumbaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last week I blogged about Will&#039;s &#039;big shifts&#039; that he uses as the end of his book.  I didn&#039;t expect much of a response from our teaching staff, since most of them wll not read their school e-mail during the summer vacation.  I received two e-mail responses in the first two days.  I think this is something that may gain some traction in our district in the coming year.  Our Global Communications program will probably give some teachers a visualization of the type of skills we are trying to teach students. 

http://chs.smuhsd.org/gc/gc.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week I blogged about Will&#8217;s &#8216;big shifts&#8217; that he uses as the end of his book.  I didn&#8217;t expect much of a response from our teaching staff, since most of them wll not read their school e-mail during the summer vacation.  I received two e-mail responses in the first two days.  I think this is something that may gain some traction in our district in the coming year.  Our Global Communications program will probably give some teachers a visualization of the type of skills we are trying to teach students. </p>
<p><a href="http://chs.smuhsd.org/gc/gc.htm" rel="nofollow">http://chs.smuhsd.org/gc/gc.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tracy Fowler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy Fowler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I so appreciate all of the perspectives and comments in this post. As a Tech Facilitator, I find myself siding with Will. Education’s reaction to the read/write web is to try to block it from our schools. I believe that it is our responsibility as educators to do just that – educate. Our students need to understand the responsible use of these new tools, and the potential dangers and consequences for their misuse! The best way to teach, as we all know is to do! We have our work cut out for us, but I believe the impact of kids sharing thoughts, ideas and learning with the world community is worth the effort! To do this we’ll have to seek the support of our parents and administrators.

Parents are frightened by what they don’t understand. But as a parent I side with Will. We might want to protect our kids from gratuitous sex and violence that our pop culture generates, but we well never block it all. The imagery is too prevalent and powerful. We have to limit exposure to the worst, and use the rest as teaching opportunities. A good example of this is the Pixar movie Cars. My 6-year-old son loved the movie and continues to act out scenes with his Matchbox cars. Yesterday he was acting out the scene where the main character has a drag race with a train.  This provided an opportunity for a discussion of what really happens when people try to beat trains across the tracks and the difference between cartoons and real life. My son “gets it” now.

I do appreciate the administrator’s comments here as well. Our students come from a wide variety of backgrounds and cultures. Administrators have to deal with conflicting expectations from families as well as the demands of high-stakes NCLB testing. Again, we have to teach safe, valuable use of Web 2.0 technologies and then make the positive results highly visible to our parents. If the only press parents hear is the dangers of MySpace and YouTube, we’ll lose our opportunity to teach!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I so appreciate all of the perspectives and comments in this post. As a Tech Facilitator, I find myself siding with Will. Education’s reaction to the read/write web is to try to block it from our schools. I believe that it is our responsibility as educators to do just that – educate. Our students need to understand the responsible use of these new tools, and the potential dangers and consequences for their misuse! The best way to teach, as we all know is to do! We have our work cut out for us, but I believe the impact of kids sharing thoughts, ideas and learning with the world community is worth the effort! To do this we’ll have to seek the support of our parents and administrators.</p>
<p>Parents are frightened by what they don’t understand. But as a parent I side with Will. We might want to protect our kids from gratuitous sex and violence that our pop culture generates, but we well never block it all. The imagery is too prevalent and powerful. We have to limit exposure to the worst, and use the rest as teaching opportunities. A good example of this is the Pixar movie Cars. My 6-year-old son loved the movie and continues to act out scenes with his Matchbox cars. Yesterday he was acting out the scene where the main character has a drag race with a train.  This provided an opportunity for a discussion of what really happens when people try to beat trains across the tracks and the difference between cartoons and real life. My son “gets it” now.</p>
<p>I do appreciate the administrator’s comments here as well. Our students come from a wide variety of backgrounds and cultures. Administrators have to deal with conflicting expectations from families as well as the demands of high-stakes NCLB testing. Again, we have to teach safe, valuable use of Web 2.0 technologies and then make the positive results highly visible to our parents. If the only press parents hear is the dangers of MySpace and YouTube, we’ll lose our opportunity to teach!</p>
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		<title>By: daretam</title>
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		<dc:creator>daretam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this entry very significant for my current position.  I am an administrator in a very conservative Mennonite community whereby there is great concern over exposing children to the ills of the &quot;big bad world.&quot;  My fear is that sheltering the children in our community will only lead them to want to leave the community as quickly as they possibly can once they graduate.  How can we begin to address this problem in our community?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this entry very significant for my current position.  I am an administrator in a very conservative Mennonite community whereby there is great concern over exposing children to the ills of the &#8220;big bad world.&#8221;  My fear is that sheltering the children in our community will only lead them to want to leave the community as quickly as they possibly can once they graduate.  How can we begin to address this problem in our community?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to make it 27 comments.</description>
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		<title>By: david king</title>
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		<dc:creator>david king</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d agree with you there - doing ANYTHING without teaching why doesn&#039;t do too much (for me, anyway).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d agree with you there &#8211; doing ANYTHING without teaching why doesn&#8217;t do too much (for me, anyway).</p>
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		<title>By: Will Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 04:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, maybe what I should have said is that I have yet to see anyone TEACH their kids when they go into magazine stores... Covering their eyes without explaining to them why we&#039;re doing it is akin to the filtering we do in schools. Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, maybe what I should have said is that I have yet to see anyone TEACH their kids when they go into magazine stores&#8230; Covering their eyes without explaining to them why we&#8217;re doing it is akin to the filtering we do in schools. Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: david king</title>
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		<dc:creator>david king</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 03:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said &quot;I have yet to see anyone cover the eyes of their kids when they go into a magazine store and every skinny, big-breasted super model or super actress is right at eye level, or change the channel when scantily clad women dance provocatively in front of half naked, muscle bound men...&quot;

We&#039;ll have to meet sometime. My wife and I definitely cover eyes, change the channel, etc - and actually watch mostly DVDs because of the stuff we don&#039;t wish our kids to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said &#8220;I have yet to see anyone cover the eyes of their kids when they go into a magazine store and every skinny, big-breasted super model or super actress is right at eye level, or change the channel when scantily clad women dance provocatively in front of half naked, muscle bound men&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll have to meet sometime. My wife and I definitely cover eyes, change the channel, etc &#8211; and actually watch mostly DVDs because of the stuff we don&#8217;t wish our kids to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Brumbaugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle Brumbaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 01:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will, 

Your own comment... #21 is the most telling.  The reason that message boards fall flat is that it doesn&#039;t offer a broader audience to the student than the one he/she was in class with earlier in the day.  The reason Blogging is so effective is the fact that the audience is larger, MUCH LARGER.  This lets the student know that they are on display for the world to see, not just the same 30 +/- students they are in class with.  

So, having said all of this, the other comments that have been made to this post come into play.  How do we &#039;control&#039; what students say and what they see when accessing material on the Internet?  The quick answer is that we don&#039;t.  Any school that has a filter and thinks this is going to keep the kids safe is fooling themselves.  The students have plenty of ways to evade any filtering scheme that is currently being used by schools.  There are over 250 proxy sites that completely bypass district firewalls if they are using the URL to filter.  Image filters, will only filter pornographic images, but there is much more that parents and administrators want to be blocked.  Therefore, Will&#039;s comment and the comments of others are truly what we need to emphasize and get across to parents, administrators and school boards.  We need to have a concerted effort to educate students as to what is and what is not appropriate content in a school setting.  I encourage students and teachers alike that they have two online personas.  One is their &#039;social persona,&#039; where they go to myspace and message back and forth with their friends.  They have nearly absolute free speech in this context. (notice I said &#039;nearly&#039;) As a teacher, I don&#039;t want to receive e-mail from a student using an e-mail address of &#039;sexysuzie@hotmail.com.&#039;  

The other persona they have is a &#039;professional&#039; or &#039;academic&#039; persona.  This is where they respond to teachers and other students in matters relating to their academic/professional life.

Students need to learn to make these distinctions, but we need to teach them how to do so.  The best information I have seen to address some of these issues is the &#039;Digital Citizenship&#039; site created by two education professors at Kansas State University. (http://www.educ.ksu.edu/digitalcitizenship/)

What do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will, </p>
<p>Your own comment&#8230; #21 is the most telling.  The reason that message boards fall flat is that it doesn&#8217;t offer a broader audience to the student than the one he/she was in class with earlier in the day.  The reason Blogging is so effective is the fact that the audience is larger, MUCH LARGER.  This lets the student know that they are on display for the world to see, not just the same 30 +/- students they are in class with.  </p>
<p>So, having said all of this, the other comments that have been made to this post come into play.  How do we &#8216;control&#8217; what students say and what they see when accessing material on the Internet?  The quick answer is that we don&#8217;t.  Any school that has a filter and thinks this is going to keep the kids safe is fooling themselves.  The students have plenty of ways to evade any filtering scheme that is currently being used by schools.  There are over 250 proxy sites that completely bypass district firewalls if they are using the URL to filter.  Image filters, will only filter pornographic images, but there is much more that parents and administrators want to be blocked.  Therefore, Will&#8217;s comment and the comments of others are truly what we need to emphasize and get across to parents, administrators and school boards.  We need to have a concerted effort to educate students as to what is and what is not appropriate content in a school setting.  I encourage students and teachers alike that they have two online personas.  One is their &#8216;social persona,&#8217; where they go to myspace and message back and forth with their friends.  They have nearly absolute free speech in this context. (notice I said &#8216;nearly&#8217;) As a teacher, I don&#8217;t want to receive e-mail from a student using an e-mail address of &#8216;sexysuzie@hotmail.com.&#8217;  </p>
<p>The other persona they have is a &#8216;professional&#8217; or &#8216;academic&#8217; persona.  This is where they respond to teachers and other students in matters relating to their academic/professional life.</p>
<p>Students need to learn to make these distinctions, but we need to teach them how to do so.  The best information I have seen to address some of these issues is the &#8216;Digital Citizenship&#8217; site created by two education professors at Kansas State University. (<a href="http://www.educ.ksu.edu/digitalcitizenship/" rel="nofollow">http://www.educ.ksu.edu/digitalcitizenship/</a>)</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Walters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Walters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 00:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps this will seem flip, but my one-word response to the comment above -- &quot;liability&quot; -- is &quot;courage.&quot;  We regularly use the fear of &quot;liability&quot; as an excuse to avoid having to stand up to the noisiest and most close-minded of our community.  We need educational leaders who can stare down those who put their own hyper-fears ahead of all else, and force everybody to dance to the tune of their paranoid tunes.  No, we may not put a street down the main hallway of the school, but we don&#039;t ban streets from around the school, nor do we pretend that cars don&#039;t exist because occasionally people get run over.  It is time to restore courage to the conversation, and model what it means to have a backbone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps this will seem flip, but my one-word response to the comment above &#8212; &#8220;liability&#8221; &#8212; is &#8220;courage.&#8221;  We regularly use the fear of &#8220;liability&#8221; as an excuse to avoid having to stand up to the noisiest and most close-minded of our community.  We need educational leaders who can stare down those who put their own hyper-fears ahead of all else, and force everybody to dance to the tune of their paranoid tunes.  No, we may not put a street down the main hallway of the school, but we don&#8217;t ban streets from around the school, nor do we pretend that cars don&#8217;t exist because occasionally people get run over.  It is time to restore courage to the conversation, and model what it means to have a backbone.</p>
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		<title>By: Weblogg-ed &#187; Blogs at Their Best</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weblogg-ed &#187; Blogs at Their Best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 17:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But the interesting thing is that he mentioned that he doesn&#8217;t see how blogs are much of an improvement over discussion boards. I&#8217;ve been reading and reflecting a lot on the conversation from a couple of days ago, and some of the outcomes from my workshop this week, and I have to say I think the difference is obvious: transparency. When I post to my blog, it not only has a chance to be read by a billion people, it also lives on in the Google-able and Technorati-able world of content. It also gets linked to by other people having other conversations. And it also creates a real sense of ownership of the ideas and the membership in the community. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But the interesting thing is that he mentioned that he doesn&#8217;t see how blogs are much of an improvement over discussion boards. I&#8217;ve been reading and reflecting a lot on the conversation from a couple of days ago, and some of the outcomes from my workshop this week, and I have to say I think the difference is obvious: transparency. When I post to my blog, it not only has a chance to be read by a billion people, it also lives on in the Google-able and Technorati-able world of content. It also gets linked to by other people having other conversations. And it also creates a real sense of ownership of the ideas and the membership in the community. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly! you have hit the nail on the head-every time I let a &quot;bad&quot; word slip out in class, I ask the students, &quot;Who watches MTV?&quot; of course, most of them do, and it is much worse than I could ever come up with! Thanks for the blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly! you have hit the nail on the head-every time I let a &#8220;bad&#8221; word slip out in class, I ask the students, &#8220;Who watches MTV?&#8221; of course, most of them do, and it is much worse than I could ever come up with! Thanks for the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 02:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the things I&#039;ve been stunned by recently is the realization that we as educators often think very differently to the parents of the kids we teach. They (at least some of them) are NOT doing what you consider to be so natural and teaching their kids how to deal with these issues in their daily life. They just don&#039;t seem to see how their kids&#039; values are being influenced by what they choose to watch on TV (on their TVs in their bedrooms, where their parents have no idea what they&#039;re watching.) Then there are the parents who are not allowing their kids to use any of these new technologies at home, and their kids are fascinated by them and take every opportunity to use them at friends&#039; houses (or at school.) These are the families that have created the demand for the &#039;family&#039; tier of programming from the cable companies and who are stereotyped as ultraconservative and religious. 

I remember at one school being challenged by a student about why I was being so strict about a particular matter and explaining that the school&#039;s position on it was that we should represent the most conservative of parents. 

I think sometimes we don&#039;t confront certain issues in school because there is a fear of what the reaction from the parents wil be, given that they would not necessarily agree with us. The fear may be our own as individual teachers, or it may be an institutional fear coming from and supported by the administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things I&#8217;ve been stunned by recently is the realization that we as educators often think very differently to the parents of the kids we teach. They (at least some of them) are NOT doing what you consider to be so natural and teaching their kids how to deal with these issues in their daily life. They just don&#8217;t seem to see how their kids&#8217; values are being influenced by what they choose to watch on TV (on their TVs in their bedrooms, where their parents have no idea what they&#8217;re watching.) Then there are the parents who are not allowing their kids to use any of these new technologies at home, and their kids are fascinated by them and take every opportunity to use them at friends&#8217; houses (or at school.) These are the families that have created the demand for the &#8216;family&#8217; tier of programming from the cable companies and who are stereotyped as ultraconservative and religious. </p>
<p>I remember at one school being challenged by a student about why I was being so strict about a particular matter and explaining that the school&#8217;s position on it was that we should represent the most conservative of parents. </p>
<p>I think sometimes we don&#8217;t confront certain issues in school because there is a fear of what the reaction from the parents wil be, given that they would not necessarily agree with us. The fear may be our own as individual teachers, or it may be an institutional fear coming from and supported by the administration.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 01:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait a minute. I attended the three days, couldn&#039;t leave, left totally jazzed about the potential and now am tuning into this blog after a ten hour work day. Why? Too much to say in a comment so as my noble instructor Will taught me. . . tune into my blog at ghsprincipal.edublogs.org. Sorry Will, I know you also taught me all that html lingo so that only the name would show up here as a link, but, hey, my notes are at school where I was too busy all day to read what&#039;s happening in my new blog world that no one I know understands. But, oops, that&#039;s the point of my blog. See you there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a minute. I attended the three days, couldn&#8217;t leave, left totally jazzed about the potential and now am tuning into this blog after a ten hour work day. Why? Too much to say in a comment so as my noble instructor Will taught me. . . tune into my blog at ghsprincipal.edublogs.org. Sorry Will, I know you also taught me all that html lingo so that only the name would show up here as a link, but, hey, my notes are at school where I was too busy all day to read what&#8217;s happening in my new blog world that no one I know understands. But, oops, that&#8217;s the point of my blog. See you there.</p>
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