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	<title>Comments on: Isn&#8217;t it Ironic&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Weekly Roundup (24 September 2006) at teaching.mrbelshaw.co.uk</title>
		<link>http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/isnt-it-ironic/comment-page-1/#comment-6151</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekly Roundup (24 September 2006) at teaching.mrbelshaw.co.uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 21:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Will Richardson - Isn&#8217;t it Ironic? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Will Richardson &#8211; Isn&#8217;t it Ironic? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Weblogg-ed &#187; Discovering Content</title>
		<link>http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/isnt-it-ironic/comment-page-1/#comment-6035</link>
		<dc:creator>Weblogg-ed &#187; Discovering Content</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What got me started on this, actually, was the work that Jeff&#8217;s kids were posting to YouTube. Now before I go any further, I&#8217;m in no way demeaning that effort; I think it&#8217;s a great start down the road. But there has to be more here. At some point, I&#8217;m hoping Jeff will scaffold up from &#8220;the same-old-report in a different format that has a big audience&#8221; work to more &#8220;critical analysis of the content that we&#8217;re producing to test our ideas&#8221; work. I mean that, at it&#8217;s core, is what is powerful about these technologies. They allow us to take risks with our ideas, to test them in authentic ways with real audiences, and learn from the process. (In many ways, this post is a risk.) Why shouldn&#8217;t we be asking students to do the same? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What got me started on this, actually, was the work that Jeff&#8217;s kids were posting to YouTube. Now before I go any further, I&#8217;m in no way demeaning that effort; I think it&#8217;s a great start down the road. But there has to be more here. At some point, I&#8217;m hoping Jeff will scaffold up from &#8220;the same-old-report in a different format that has a big audience&#8221; work to more &#8220;critical analysis of the content that we&#8217;re producing to test our ideas&#8221; work. I mean that, at it&#8217;s core, is what is powerful about these technologies. They allow us to take risks with our ideas, to test them in authentic ways with real audiences, and learn from the process. (In many ways, this post is a risk.) Why shouldn&#8217;t we be asking students to do the same? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Barreda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara Barreda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link Will. This is great stuff and sure to help us get excited about the possibilities. As for bandwidth I am an administrator and only a part time tech person but I believe some of the problems can be avoided if you download the streaming video to your server for temporary storage. this strategy has worked for us...it takes some preplanning but does give the students access.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link Will. This is great stuff and sure to help us get excited about the possibilities. As for bandwidth I am an administrator and only a part time tech person but I believe some of the problems can be avoided if you download the streaming video to your server for temporary storage. this strategy has worked for us&#8230;it takes some preplanning but does give the students access.</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley Fryer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wesley Fryer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well David, it sounds like your district needs to apply for more bandwidth via E-Rate! :-) I think all schools should be planning now for dark fiber (owned fiber) connections between all campuses and to the commodity Internet for this very reason. The road to the future will be paved with bandwidth and fiber. (Can you tell I&#039;ve been reading &quot;Telecosm&quot; by George Gilder?!)

Great story Will, thanks for sharing this. Yet more anecdotal evidence (perhaps the most valid kind) that when students are invited to create, write, and publish for a global audience-- that fact alone changes everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well David, it sounds like your district needs to apply for more bandwidth via E-Rate! <img src='http://weblogg-ed.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I think all schools should be planning now for dark fiber (owned fiber) connections between all campuses and to the commodity Internet for this very reason. The road to the future will be paved with bandwidth and fiber. (Can you tell I&#8217;ve been reading &#8220;Telecosm&#8221; by George Gilder?!)</p>
<p>Great story Will, thanks for sharing this. Yet more anecdotal evidence (perhaps the most valid kind) that when students are invited to create, write, and publish for a global audience&#8211; that fact alone changes everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Hoffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, this may be the equivalent of promoting publishing student audio to Napster circa 1999:

http://www.blogmaverick.com/2006/09/17/the-coming-dramatic-decline-of-youtube/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, this may be the equivalent of promoting publishing student audio to Napster circa 1999:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.blogmaverick.com/2006/09/17/the-coming-dramatic-decline-of-youtube/" rel="nofollow">http://www.blogmaverick.com/2006/09/17/the-coming-dramatic-decline-of-youtube/</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Jakes</title>
		<link>http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/isnt-it-ironic/comment-page-1/#comment-6021</link>
		<dc:creator>David Jakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just had our tech people block YouTube.

I didn&#039;t want to-you know me, the more tools the better and I understand the importance of YouTube as a publishing platform.

But we don&#039;t have the bandwidth for streaming video.  That&#039;s why. 

We found that out last year when our network screeched to a halt.  Why?  Teachers streaming NCAA Men&#039;s basketball games during their prep periods.

Surprisingly, I can accept the inappropriate video clips that are there-after all, I&#039;m a supporter of Flickr as well.  But for us, it comes down to a simple, network thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just had our tech people block YouTube.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t want to-you know me, the more tools the better and I understand the importance of YouTube as a publishing platform.</p>
<p>But we don&#8217;t have the bandwidth for streaming video.  That&#8217;s why. </p>
<p>We found that out last year when our network screeched to a halt.  Why?  Teachers streaming NCAA Men&#8217;s basketball games during their prep periods.</p>
<p>Surprisingly, I can accept the inappropriate video clips that are there-after all, I&#8217;m a supporter of Flickr as well.  But for us, it comes down to a simple, network thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/isnt-it-ironic/comment-page-1/#comment-6019</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa (Keanu Reeves Style)

That is amazing, I am sorry if this sounds silly, but why can&#039;t americans use the &quot;
most insanely popular publishing tool&quot; out there?

I plan on having all of my 80+ students look at their work, so they can be motivated to publish as well.

Thanks Will!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa (Keanu Reeves Style)</p>
<p>That is amazing, I am sorry if this sounds silly, but why can&#8217;t americans use the &#8221;<br />
most insanely popular publishing tool&#8221; out there?</p>
<p>I plan on having all of my 80+ students look at their work, so they can be motivated to publish as well.</p>
<p>Thanks Will!</p>
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