Comments on: DOPA–"A Dangerous Approach to Internet Safety” http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/dopa-a-dangerous-approach-to-internet-safety/ Learning with the Read/Write Web Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:36:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Capitol Annex » Warning: This Site (And Millions Like It) Could Be Banned At Schools & Libraries http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/dopa-a-dangerous-approach-to-internet-safety/comment-page-1/#comment-4942 Capitol Annex » Warning: This Site (And Millions Like It) Could Be Banned At Schools & Libraries Tue, 08 Aug 2006 04:29:07 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/dopa-a-dangerous-approach-to-internet-safety/#comment-4942 [...] While it appears Senate action on the bill may be put off for a while, that doesn’t stop the need for the Blogsphere to be on top of this issue. [...] [...] While it appears Senate action on the bill may be put off for a while, that doesn’t stop the need for the Blogsphere to be on top of this issue. [...]

]]> By: Harry S Truman http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/dopa-a-dangerous-approach-to-internet-safety/comment-page-1/#comment-4833 Harry S Truman Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:55:34 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/dopa-a-dangerous-approach-to-internet-safety/#comment-4833 I think that the bill is misguided, but am happy to see that steps are being taken to think about this problem in a public realm. I would be most predators prey from home, not public libraries, and I also think that nixing all those sites in public settings would do a diservice to those who use them for fun or educational purposes. I support the Adam Walsh bill in that it provides framework and funding for cooperation and enforcment on a variety of child explotation issues, including internet crimes. Overall I'd like to see a wide spread effort to teach internet safety curriculum in schools or classes at public libraries. There are groups like Cybertipline that have done PSAs with some of these sites, and handle a bulk of internet reports - but getting information about groups like that into the hands of people that will use it is critical. There are so many great programs out there - I hope that the maximum number of kids are getting them - and that the creeps out there are receiving the stiffest penalities possible. I think that the bill is misguided, but am happy to see that steps are being taken to think about this problem in a public realm. I would be most predators prey from home, not public libraries, and I also think that nixing all those sites in public settings would do a diservice to those who use them for fun or educational purposes.

I support the Adam Walsh bill in that it provides framework and funding for cooperation and enforcment on a variety of child explotation issues, including internet crimes.

Overall I’d like to see a wide spread effort to teach internet safety curriculum in schools or classes at public libraries. There are groups like Cybertipline that have done PSAs with some of these sites, and handle a bulk of internet reports – but getting information about groups like that into the hands of people that will use it is critical. There are so many great programs out there – I hope that the maximum number of kids are getting them – and that the creeps out there are receiving the stiffest penalities possible.

]]> By: Weblogg-ed » The Plagiarism Thing http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/dopa-a-dangerous-approach-to-internet-safety/comment-page-1/#comment-4828 Weblogg-ed » The Plagiarism Thing Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:18:07 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/dopa-a-dangerous-approach-to-internet-safety/#comment-4828 [...] So, what to do? Certainly, there is a central ethic that is involved here, that of owning your own work and attributing the work of others. Putting your name on someone else’s stuff is theft, plain and simple, and should not be tolerated. But as the article points out, much of the problem is simple sloppy work in terms of sourcing and attribution. And the bigger problem is that it is being tolerated. This is fundamental, third grade on work that we have to start doing with our students. But it’s also a challenge to us as educators to model the process and make it transparent. Tom caught me just yesterday not citing a source. (He’s good at that.) And it was a good reminder of how careful I need to be. In the grander scheme of things, we need to have some much broader discussions of how this all impacts our process, our curriculum and our teaching. [...] [...] So, what to do? Certainly, there is a central ethic that is involved here, that of owning your own work and attributing the work of others. Putting your name on someone else’s stuff is theft, plain and simple, and should not be tolerated. But as the article points out, much of the problem is simple sloppy work in terms of sourcing and attribution. And the bigger problem is that it is being tolerated. This is fundamental, third grade on work that we have to start doing with our students. But it’s also a challenge to us as educators to model the process and make it transparent. Tom caught me just yesterday not citing a source. (He’s good at that.) And it was a good reminder of how careful I need to be. In the grander scheme of things, we need to have some much broader discussions of how this all impacts our process, our curriculum and our teaching. [...]

]]> By: Rob Lucas http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/dopa-a-dangerous-approach-to-internet-safety/comment-page-1/#comment-4822 Rob Lucas Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:11:58 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/dopa-a-dangerous-approach-to-internet-safety/#comment-4822 I just read the bill, and it looks like they passed a revision that allows for educational and adult uses (er... use by adults). Is that recent? Did the more substantive DOPA takedowns I read a while back account for the educational/adult override? To my naive reading, the revision takes the bill from 'end of educational blogging as we know it' to 'misguided pain in the ass'. Frankly, I trust the wisdom of this crowd more than my own uninformed reading, so I'm working under the assumption that I'm wrong. But will somebody explain to me why? Or direct me to a post that addresses the exemption? I just read the bill, and it looks like they passed a revision that allows for educational and adult uses (er… use by adults). Is that recent? Did the more substantive DOPA takedowns I read a while back account for the educational/adult override?

To my naive reading, the revision takes the bill from ‘end of educational blogging as we know it’ to ‘misguided pain in the ass’.

Frankly, I trust the wisdom of this crowd more than my own uninformed reading, so I’m working under the assumption that I’m wrong. But will somebody explain to me why? Or direct me to a post that addresses the exemption?

]]> By: Pam Nielson http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/dopa-a-dangerous-approach-to-internet-safety/comment-page-1/#comment-4813 Pam Nielson Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:13:33 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/dopa-a-dangerous-approach-to-internet-safety/#comment-4813 I saw a great sample letter by Anne Davis on her blog: http://anne.teachesme.com/2006/07/31/another-dear-senator/ I saw a great sample letter by Anne Davis on her blog: http://anne.teachesme.com/2006/07/31/another-dear-senator/

]]> By: Ravi http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/dopa-a-dangerous-approach-to-internet-safety/comment-page-1/#comment-4811 Ravi Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:06:28 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/dopa-a-dangerous-approach-to-internet-safety/#comment-4811 What we really need is a Deleting Incompetent Congressmen Act. Unfortunately, all the tubes are clogged again :( What we really need is a Deleting Incompetent Congressmen Act. Unfortunately, all the tubes are clogged again :(

]]> By: Thoughts and Experiments » A need to write http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/dopa-a-dangerous-approach-to-internet-safety/comment-page-1/#comment-4810 Thoughts and Experiments » A need to write Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:01:03 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/dopa-a-dangerous-approach-to-internet-safety/#comment-4810 [...] I feel the need to write. Today I have read more about DOPA and received a form letter back from my Senator (Who I have decide I would rather vote for Donald Duck than him in the Fall) on that subject. Combine that with the non-sense that Blackboards now owns the patent on Learning Management Systems and is sueing for patent infringement already my mind is clouded with frustration. [...] [...] I feel the need to write. Today I have read more about DOPA and received a form letter back from my Senator (Who I have decide I would rather vote for Donald Duck than him in the Fall) on that subject. Combine that with the non-sense that Blackboards now owns the patent on Learning Management Systems and is sueing for patent infringement already my mind is clouded with frustration. [...]

]]> By: Will Richardson http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/dopa-a-dangerous-approach-to-internet-safety/comment-page-1/#comment-4808 Will Richardson Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:46:24 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/dopa-a-dangerous-approach-to-internet-safety/#comment-4808 Source of the story is at http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1834600,00.html. Source of the story is at http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1834600,00.html.

]]> By: Tom Hoffman http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/dopa-a-dangerous-approach-to-internet-safety/comment-page-1/#comment-4804 Tom Hoffman Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:38:04 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/dopa-a-dangerous-approach-to-internet-safety/#comment-4804 What's your source for this Senate news? What’s your source for this Senate news?

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