Comments on: Blackboard Patents the LMS…The End of Moodle and Elgg? http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/ Learning with the Read/Write Web Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:36:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sitting in Timeout http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/comment-page-1/#comment-4955 Sitting in Timeout Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:23:48 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/#comment-4955 <strong>Blackboard Patents Learning Management Systems...</strong> This cracks me up. We’ve seen this before from other firms like SCO and Microsoft. Unfortunately for Desire2Learn, for whatever reason, they had a nice target on their back and will have to spend money in court to defend themselves against what ... Blackboard Patents Learning Management Systems…

This cracks me up. We’ve seen this before from other firms like SCO and Microsoft. Unfortunately for Desire2Learn, for whatever reason, they had a nice target on their back and will have to spend money in court to defend themselves against what …

]]> By: Alwyn Hugo http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/comment-page-1/#comment-4927 Alwyn Hugo Mon, 07 Aug 2006 09:22:51 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/#comment-4927 Does the patent BB have extents to code, procedures or processes? Code I can understand but if it is upheld to include code that are used to achieve a similar product / process we will see patents on Word processors and Spreadsheets.... If it extents to procedures and processes then BB now owns the Web\Internet and further have the right to tell Institutions of Learning how and what to teach. Does the patent BB have extents to code, procedures or processes? Code I can understand but if it is upheld to include code that are used to achieve a similar product / process we will see patents on Word processors and Spreadsheets…. If it extents to procedures and processes then BB now owns the Web\Internet and further have the right to tell Institutions of Learning how and what to teach.

]]> By: Gary Stager http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/comment-page-1/#comment-4857 Gary Stager Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:38:12 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/#comment-4857 Since learning cannot be "managed," I remain unconcerned. Now, if 14th Century priests would just enforce their patent on "smart" boards... Since learning cannot be “managed,” I remain unconcerned.

Now, if 14th Century priests would just enforce their patent on “smart” boards…

]]> By: dave cormier http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/comment-page-1/#comment-4842 dave cormier Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:25:07 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/#comment-4842 Someoene has been posting this link to the 'steve hyndman' issue all over the internet and not leaving any name along with it. I would love it if whomever posted this would identify themselves. calling what moodle.com is doing as a monopoly is rediculous. Martin D. is saying that if you want to sell services, with moodle, you have to talk to him about it. I've not really seen any argument that convinces me that they are doing anything wrong. I am willing to be contradicted, but as the person who keeps posting that link (also posted on downes today) without ID, it seems more like a smear campaign. Someoene has been posting this link to the ‘steve hyndman’ issue all over the internet and not leaving any name along with it. I would love it if whomever posted this would identify themselves.

calling what moodle.com is doing as a monopoly is rediculous. Martin D. is saying that if you want to sell services, with moodle, you have to talk to him about it. I’ve not really seen any argument that convinces me that they are doing anything wrong. I am willing to be contradicted, but as the person who keeps posting that link (also posted on downes today) without ID, it seems more like a smear campaign.

]]> By: zeb http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/comment-page-1/#comment-4838 zeb Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:04:00 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/#comment-4838 It's about as the monolopy Moodle has created...which is legal. I would suspect that Blackboard isn't really interested in the Moodle open source community, but is more interested in the Moodle.com business monolopy. http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=48528 It’s about as the monolopy Moodle has created…which is legal. I would suspect that Blackboard isn’t really interested in the Moodle open source community, but is more interested in the Moodle.com business monolopy.

http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=48528

]]> By: Mary Striby http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/comment-page-1/#comment-4834 Mary Striby Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:15:50 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/#comment-4834 So the patent office has created a monopoly for online learning systems? How is that legal? So the patent office has created a monopoly for online learning systems? How is that legal?

]]> By: Michael Penney http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/comment-page-1/#comment-4820 Michael Penney Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:56:58 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/#comment-4820 I'm not a lawyer, but if the patent is upheld in it's broadest sense, a patent on all online learning with a teacher/student role, it seems to me that MS (Sharepoint), IBM (Lotus Learning), Oracle, and Apple (iTunesU) will all be out of the game. On the other hand, there is a good deal of prior art, which folks are busy updating here: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_virtual_learning_environments" rel="nofollow">History of VLEs</a> The suit against D2L appears to over selling VLE code, which (again, INAL), what injury is there to BB if an institution which can't afford BB Enterprise uses a free product for their VLE? I’m not a lawyer, but if the patent is upheld in it’s broadest sense, a patent on all online learning with a teacher/student role, it seems to me that MS (Sharepoint), IBM (Lotus Learning), Oracle, and Apple (iTunesU) will all be out of the game.

On the other hand, there is a good deal of prior art, which folks are busy updating here:
History of VLEs

The suit against D2L appears to over selling VLE code, which (again, INAL), what injury is there to BB if an institution which can’t afford BB Enterprise uses a free product for their VLE?

]]> By: Chris Lehmann http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/comment-page-1/#comment-4816 Chris Lehmann Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:07:33 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/#comment-4816 *arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh* *arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh*

]]> By: Tim Lauer http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/comment-page-1/#comment-4809 Tim Lauer Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:16:06 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/#comment-4809 You really have to wonder about the folks in the patent office... Has anyone ever heard of prior art... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLATO You really have to wonder about the folks in the patent office… Has anyone ever heard of prior art…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLATO

]]> By: EdVentures in Technology » BlackWeb (taking a page from Microsoft?) http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/comment-page-1/#comment-4807 EdVentures in Technology » BlackWeb (taking a page from Microsoft?) Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:21:46 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/#comment-4807 [...] Then Will Richardson joined in with details on his Skype convo with Dave and metioned that “the day the patent was awarded, Blackboard sued Desire2Learn for infringement…” [...] [...] Then Will Richardson joined in with details on his Skype convo with Dave and metioned that “the day the patent was awarded, Blackboard sued Desire2Learn for infringement…” [...]

]]> By: gnz http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/comment-page-1/#comment-4806 gnz Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:48:23 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/blackboard-patents-the-lmsthe-end-of-moodle-and-elgg/#comment-4806 Hopefully this means that Blackboard will accelerate the development on their upcoming "Social Studies : How to Exploit Capitalism in the Information Age" module---the patent lawyers of tomorrow are aching for it! Hopefully this means that Blackboard will accelerate the development on their upcoming “Social Studies : How to Exploit Capitalism in the Information Age” module—the patent lawyers of tomorrow are aching for it!

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