Comments on: A Read/Write Web Learning Curriculum http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/a-readwrite-web-learning-curriculum/ Learning with the Read/Write Web Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:36:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: James O'Hagan http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/a-readwrite-web-learning-curriculum/comment-page-1/#comment-6861 James O'Hagan Thu, 02 Nov 2006 06:30:17 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/a-readwrite-web-learning-curriculum/#comment-6861 ARGHHH... "too Vulcan" not "to Vulcan." D'oh! ARGHHH… “too Vulcan” not “to Vulcan.”

D’oh!

]]> By: James O'Hagan http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/a-readwrite-web-learning-curriculum/comment-page-1/#comment-6860 James O'Hagan Thu, 02 Nov 2006 06:29:00 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/a-readwrite-web-learning-curriculum/#comment-6860 I am seeing this on a first hand basis. Laptops in the hands of students does not produce the results expected unless there is a shift in the pedagogy of the school. It doesn't just happen with the arrival of the technology. To say, "But I feel like I also need to petition whoever will listen that it’s a moral imperative at this point to get every kid connected. If Libya is on the verge depending on how the $100 laptop initiative plays out, why aren’t we? (Don’t answer that…)" isn't fiscally or intellectually sound. To equate that to a moral imperative, well, I guess I am a little to Vulcan in my thoughts. There has to be: vision leadership goals Without those, just getting kids connected will perpetuate the throwing money at the problem but not addressing it, a la the last 50 years of public education. I am seeing this on a first hand basis. Laptops in the hands of students does not produce the results expected unless there is a shift in the pedagogy of the school. It doesn’t just happen with the arrival of the technology. To say, “But I feel like I also need to petition whoever will listen that it’s a moral imperative at this point to get every kid connected. If Libya is on the verge depending on how the $100 laptop initiative plays out, why aren’t we? (Don’t answer that…)” isn’t fiscally or intellectually sound. To equate that to a moral imperative, well, I guess I am a little to Vulcan in my thoughts.

There has to be:
vision
leadership
goals

Without those, just getting kids connected will perpetuate the throwing money at the problem but not addressing it, a la the last 50 years of public education.

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]]> By: jon kalafer http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/a-readwrite-web-learning-curriculum/comment-page-1/#comment-6810 jon kalafer Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:12:31 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/a-readwrite-web-learning-curriculum/#comment-6810 I won't answer the question but I will say it is very frustrating I won’t answer the question but I will say it is very frustrating

]]> By: phaedrus » Blog Archive » Access vs. Participation http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/a-readwrite-web-learning-curriculum/comment-page-1/#comment-6782 phaedrus » Blog Archive » Access vs. Participation Sat, 28 Oct 2006 10:25:40 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/a-readwrite-web-learning-curriculum/#comment-6782 [...] I saw this the other day when it hit my ‘gator, but Will Richardson linked to it and reminded me. [...] [...] I saw this the other day when it hit my ‘gator, but Will Richardson linked to it and reminded me. [...]

]]> By: Tom Barrett http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/a-readwrite-web-learning-curriculum/comment-page-1/#comment-6781 Tom Barrett Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:16:55 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/a-readwrite-web-learning-curriculum/#comment-6781 Terry you say in your comment, "what school in their right mind is going to let us truly reflect the world of our learner." This is the ultimate hurdle for educators to get over. But I feel very much a part of the "school", I am not fighting against it and the children I teach should have people fighting their corner. I suggested that the school curriculum should reflect the common experiences they have at home. If it were to truly mirror what they do beyond school there would be many gaps. We have the ability as teachers to provide a broad curriculum that prepares children for a life of ever changing technology. Because that is what it will be. And currently the curriculum prepares them for a world technology stuck in the 90's. Technology changes. The curriculum does not. Nobody is disputing the impact mobile phone technology has had on the world of communication. So for example should this be one element of a "Communication" strand within our curriculum; also including MSN, Skype, emailing etc. Teaching with these frustrations is difficult. Terry you say in your comment, “what school in their right mind is going to let us truly reflect the world of our learner.” This is the ultimate hurdle for educators to get over.

But I feel very much a part of the “school”, I am not fighting against it and the children I teach should have people fighting their corner.

I suggested that the school curriculum should reflect the common experiences they have at home. If it were to truly mirror what they do beyond school there would be many gaps. We have the ability as teachers to provide a broad curriculum that prepares children for a life of ever changing technology. Because that is what it will be. And currently the curriculum prepares them for a world technology stuck in the 90′s.

Technology changes.
The curriculum does not.

Nobody is disputing the impact mobile phone technology has had on the world of communication. So for example should this be one element of a “Communication” strand within our curriculum; also including MSN, Skype, emailing etc.

Teaching with these frustrations is difficult.

]]> By: Terry Elliott http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/a-readwrite-web-learning-curriculum/comment-page-1/#comment-6778 Terry Elliott Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:36:12 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/a-readwrite-web-learning-curriculum/#comment-6778 I agree with Tom Barrett that the operative word is reflect, but here's the question--what school in their right mind is going to let us truly reflect the world of our learner. Text messaging, myspace, facebook, Wow, SecondLife. Any school here that is contemplating that would indeed be fulfilling a "final fantasy". In my case the mirror I held up to my three sections of freshman composition reflected back not a single user of RSS feeds. Aggregators anyone? Not one thumbs up. As my students say, "WTF" Barrett is right though. That's where we need to be. He reminded me of a student last week who wanted me to show a short YouTube video. She was encouraged to do so by my attempts to open class with something fun. So I did. When the video (a heartrending music video about a father teaming up with his paralyzed son to participate in a triathalon) was over there weren't many dry eyes in the house. WTF. She was reflecting back to me with a tool I had introduced into the class. Maybe that is the kind of reflection Tom is promoting. I think that this might be what Will is talking about that rings so sympathetically within me right now--teach who you are, tech warts and all. I agree with Tom Barrett that the operative word is reflect, but here’s the question–what school in their right mind is going to let us truly reflect the world of our learner. Text messaging, myspace, facebook, Wow, SecondLife. Any school here that is contemplating that would indeed be fulfilling a “final fantasy”.

In my case the mirror I held up to my three sections of freshman composition reflected back not a single user of RSS feeds. Aggregators anyone? Not one thumbs up. As my students say, “WTF”

Barrett is right though. That’s where we need to be. He reminded me of a student last week who wanted me to show a short YouTube video. She was encouraged to do so by my attempts to open class with something fun.

So I did. When the video (a heartrending music video about a father teaming up with his paralyzed son to participate in a triathalon) was over there weren’t many dry eyes in the house. WTF. She was reflecting back to me with a tool I had introduced into the class. Maybe that is the kind of reflection Tom is promoting. I think that this might be what Will is talking about that rings so sympathetically within me right now–teach who you are, tech warts and all.

]]> By: Tom Barrett http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/a-readwrite-web-learning-curriculum/comment-page-1/#comment-6769 Tom Barrett Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:52:49 +0000 http://weblogg-ed.com/2006/a-readwrite-web-learning-curriculum/#comment-6769 I suppose Will it is a question of personal ICT and making sure that as teachers we embrace what the children do in the everyday. Our curriculum (UK) seems so far removed from what they are actually doing in their lives that it is erring on the bizarre! When will children ever personally choose to use a branching database - but they have mobile phones. 4 out of 5 boys in my class I chatted to the other day had phones better than mine. They know how to download music, shoot photos and videos, send messages store contacts (isn't that last one an example of a database!??) I just think it is about time schools reflected the world of the learner and delivered a curriculum that is flexible enough to cope with change. I suppose Will it is a question of personal ICT and making sure that as teachers we embrace what the children do in the everyday. Our curriculum (UK) seems so far removed from what they are actually doing in their lives that it is erring on the bizarre! When will children ever personally choose to use a branching database – but they have mobile phones. 4 out of 5 boys in my class I chatted to the other day had phones better than mine. They know how to download music, shoot photos and videos, send messages store contacts (isn’t that last one an example of a database!??) I just think it is about time schools reflected the world of the learner and delivered a curriculum that is flexible enough to cope with change.

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